Tension in the string

A uniform rod of mass 1 k g 1 kg is hanging as shown.

Find the tension in string A P AP (in newtons) immediately after string B Q BQ is cut.

Assumption \textbf{Assumption}

\bullet g = 9.8 m/s 2 g=9.8 \textbf{ m/s}^2


The answer is 2.8.

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3 solutions

Mvs Saketh
Oct 10, 2014

Consider the situation of the rod immediately after collision, make the following observations 1) centre of mass falls under gravity

2) Tension tends to oppose gravity and thus centre of mass does not free fall with acceleration 'g'

3) As the string is not normal to rod it has a non zero horizontal component which means centre of mass does not fall vertically downward

4) The string being inextensible (Constant length) means that as long as the string is not slack it will describe a circle about the pivot at the roof , thus the end of the rod just attached to the string describes an arc of the circle , thus moving PERPENDICULAR to the string.

5) And finally the torque about centre of mass is purely due to tension

Now lets state the above statements mathematically so that we can solve it

m g T s i n ( θ ) = m a y ( 1 ) T c o s ( θ ) = m a x ( 2 ) a n d l 2 T s i n ( θ ) = I α ( 3 ) N o w l e t s d e r i v e t h e c o n s t r a i n g e q u a t i o n A l l c o m p o n e n t s o n t h e r o d h a v e t h e f o l l o w i n g a c c e l e r a t i o n s mg\quad -\quad Tsin(\theta )=\quad m{ a }_{ y }\\ ---(1)\\ \\ Tcos(\theta )\quad =\quad m{ a }_{ x }\\ ---(2)\\ \\ and\quad \frac { l }{ 2 } Tsin(\theta )\quad =\quad I\alpha \\ ---(3)\\ \\ Now\quad lets\quad derive\quad the\quad constraing\quad equation\\ \\ All\quad components\quad on\quad the\quad rod\quad have\quad the\quad following\quad accelerations

Now lets derive the constraing equation

any part of the rod experiences two accelerations,, one translation by virtue of com and one rotational by virtue of rotation about com

Thus the superposition of these two components gives the resultant acceleration at any point

For the end of rod just tied to string AP

the superposition of these accelerations give 0 net component along the string as the string is inextensible ,

the accelerations experienced by this part is

a x a l o n g h o r i z o n t a l a y a l o n g v e r t i c a l ( b y v i r t u e o f t r a n s l a t i o n o f c o m ) a n d α l 2 p e r p e n d i c u l a r t o r o d T h u s e q u a t i n g c o m p o n e n t s a l o n g s t r i n g t o 0 w e g e t a x c o s ( θ ) + α l 2 s i n ( θ ) a y s i n ( θ ) = 0 ( 4 ) \\ { a }_{ x }\quad along\quad horizontal\\ { a }_{ y }\quad along\quad vertical\\ (by\quad virtue\quad of\quad translation\quad of\quad com)\\ \\ and\quad \\ \\ \alpha \frac { l }{ 2 } \quad perpendicular\quad to\quad rod\\ \\ Thus\quad equating\quad components\quad along\quad string\quad to\quad 0\\ we\quad get\\ { a }_{ x }cos(\theta )\quad +\quad \alpha \frac { l }{ 2 } sin(\theta )\quad -\quad { a }_{ y }sin(\theta )\quad =\quad 0\\ \\ ---(4)\\

Now solve these 4 equations to get

T = m g s i n ( θ ) 3 ( s i n ( θ ) ) 2 + 1 T=\quad \frac { mg\quad sin(\theta ) }{ 3(sin(\theta ))^{ 2 }+1 }

which on putting values you get the answer as 2.8

note- i neglected centripetal force because it is 0 immediately after cutting string because the rod begins with 0 angular velocity

Mvs Saketh - 6 years, 8 months ago

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We have asked to find out just immediately after the string is cut. So at that instant, angular acceleration should be qero know..??... Can u plz explain??

Kïñshük Sïñgh - 6 years, 8 months ago

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The angular acceleration is not zero immediately after the string is cut because there is a non zero torque about the centre ,, because the tension has instantaneously reduced to zero on one side when the string is cut but not on the other string,, In any any instant if net torque is not zero, the angular acceleration is non zero about the point too,

However,, you can surely say that the angular velocity was zero just after cutting because the system begins from rest , velocity is the quantity associated directly with the state of motion and not the angular acceleration. (as known from the first law of motion)

Mvs Saketh - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Mvs Saketh Ohh yeah u r absolutely rite...i got confused about it... Anyways thanks for giving such an awesome explanation

Kïñshük Sïñgh - 6 years, 8 months ago

Thank you for the solution. But I didn't get one part of it. Why the string being inextensible implies that the acceleration along it is zero. Will you please clarify it?

Somsubhra Ghosh - 5 years, 12 months ago

could you explain with a diagram how you got the equation of acceleration.

Austin Joseph - 5 years, 5 months ago

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see my solution !

A Former Brilliant Member - 4 years, 7 months ago

the net acceleration along the string is = v^2/r . but since just after the release the value of v = 0 , hence acceleration along the string is 0 . would have been a complete different situation if the problem had asked the tension after some time t or when the rod made an angle with the horizontal .

Ujjwal Mani Tripathi - 4 years, 7 months ago

@Sumanth R Hegde y has he used +@l/2sin theta it should be - instead of plus right ?

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As per the directions he has taken , its right

Sumanth R Hegde - 4 years ago

Good question and an even better solution.Thanks for the solution...Coudn't solve this one :P.Messed up with the constraint part.Thanks for the solution again,now this mistake won't be repeated.

pranav jangir - 6 years, 6 months ago
Spandan Senapati
Feb 22, 2017

The constraint that I have imposed is only the acceleration of the point attached to the string along the string must be zero.Just after cutting let the tension be T T .then resolving T T into its components and taking the torque due to only the component perpendicular to the rod ( T / 2 ) ( L / 2 ) = M L 2 / 12 @ (T/2)(L/2)=ML^2/12@ so @ = 3 T / M L @=3T/ML .( @ @ is the angular acceleration of the body).now we observe that the acceleration of point considered is a ( y ) = ( T / 2 M + @ L / 2 g ) a(y)=(T/2M+@L/2-g) in the upward direction and a ( x ) = ( T 3 / 2 M ) a(x)=(T√3/2M) in horizontal.so using the constraint a ( x ) c o s 30 + a ( y ) s i n 30 = 0 a(x)cos30+a(y)sin30=0 .Now plugging the values of a ( x a(x ) and a ( y ) a(y) we get T = 2 M g / 7 T=2Mg/7

also write torques about c.o.m , you get the ans as 2.823 !

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