Resistors!

As seen above, a set of resistors are arranged in forms of the cells, each side having a resistance R R . If R 0 R_0 represents between the two points A A and B B . If R 0 R = a b \dfrac{R_0}R = \dfrac ab for coprime positive integers, find the value of

a + b + a b . a+b+ab.


The answer is 111.

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3 solutions

Kishore S. Shenoy
Oct 20, 2015

First let us consider symmetry along A B AB

Since the arrangement is symmetric about A B AB , we can fold the plane to make overlapping resistors connected parallely.

Now the folded image is symmetric about C D CD

So, I 1 = I 2 I_1 = I_2 and I 3 = I 4 I_3 = I_4 , and hence we can split the arrangement at O O .

Now, the arrangement can be further modified into:

So, R 0 = R 2 + 1 2 3 R + 2 4 R + R 2 = 6 R 7 + R = 13 7 R \begin{aligned}R_0 &= \dfrac R2 + \dfrac 1{\dfrac 2{3R} + \dfrac2{4R}} + \dfrac R2\\ &=\dfrac{6R}7 + R \\&= \dfrac{13}7R\end{aligned}

R 0 R = 13 7 \Huge \therefore \boxed{\dfrac{R_0}R = \dfrac{13}7}

Moderator note:

Terrific topological solution. Can you justify your logic at the second use of symmetry?

I Am Getting Correct Answer By This Method But When I Am Trying To Solve It Using Basics( Symmetry Method ) I Am Getting Answer As 11/6 . (Which Is Very very close to 13/7 when i checked calculator). but i am wondering why i am getting wrong answer by that method (I Did it 3 times but repeatedly go answer as 11/6)

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Lets Say If We Do Not Fold The Circuit. Then As You Have Said Too That By Symmetry Along Line CD We Can Remove The Junction At O.So The Equivalent Resistance Of The Cell Above O Will Be R . Similarly The Equivalent Resistance of the 2 cells that lie vertically below O Will Also Be R . Now These Three Will Be In Parallel Combination.Similarly If We Go On Reducing The Circuit I AM Getting Answer As 11/6

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Resistance of the combination below will be 2 R 2R and above will be 3 R 2 \dfrac{3R}2 . Think it up again!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Kishore S. Shenoy How Can You Please Explain In A Bit Detail . ( I Think For The Cell Which is directly above O Will Be R And for the two cells which are vertically below will be R Each) .

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Prakhar Bindal See, Cells above the vertical line of O will be in the form \chemfig R 2 ( [ : 45 ] R ) ( [ : 45 ] R ) R 2 = R 2 + R 2 + R 2 = 3 R 2 \chemfig{-\dfrac R 2(-[:45] R)(-[:-45] R) -\dfrac R2-} = \dfrac R2 + \dfrac R2 + \dfrac R2 = \dfrac{3R}2

And below R 2 R 2 R 2 R 2 = 4 R 2 -\dfrac R2-\dfrac R2-\dfrac R2-\dfrac R2- = \dfrac{4R}2

Click here to see how \chemfig renders...

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Kishore S. Shenoy Used the same method as you. I love when symmetry makes questions easier. Someone who looks at this question for the first time will get nervous because of complex system, until he realises how easy it has become due to symmetry. :D

A Former Brilliant Member - 5 years, 6 months ago

As in symmetry, you combine the middle layer of the once folded combination. That step makes you wrong. You should notice one thing that you can use symmetry only when the folded surfaces are having equal potential...

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

@Brilliant Physics , the logic is that if we reverse the current, since the Circuit is symmetric, current flowing through a typical wire resistor will be same in both the cases. So we can split the junction!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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I'm thinking, is there a simple physical reason for why we can make the split, i.e. is there a reason no current flows across the point O O from I 1 I_1 to I 4 I_4 .

Brilliant Physics Staff - 5 years, 7 months ago

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Yes, both are in equal potential. i.e. at O O , I 4 I_4 and I 2 I_2 are having same potential.

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Kishore S. Shenoy What do you mean in saying that the currents have the same potential?

Brilliant Physics Staff - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Brilliant Physics At point O, all routes possible routes to B have same resistance. So we can "consider" them to have equal potential.

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Kishore S. Shenoy Got it. I think that is the physical insight some people might have been wondering about. Terrific problem and solution.

Brilliant Physics Staff - 5 years, 7 months ago

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@Brilliant Physics Thanks! ¨ \ddot\smile

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 7 months ago

I am amazed by the work you put in to post a question and the solution. I mean just look at images you have posted .. WOW

Pranjal Prashant - 5 years, 6 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Jan 13, 2016

I have a slightly different solution. \color{#3D99F6}{\text{I have a slightly different solution.}}

Due to symmetry, we note that points C, D, E, ... have the same potential with the respective C', D', E'. Therefore, they can be considered as same points and hence the equivalent circuit of 12 × R R 12 \times R||R or R 2 \dfrac{R}{2} resistors.

Again due to symmetry we note that both the potentials of C and G are 1 2 V A B \frac{1}{2}V_{AB} , therefore they can be considered as a same point and hence the second equivalent circuit with 2 × R 4 2 \times \dfrac{R}{4} .

Therefore,

R 0 = 2 × ( R 2 + ( R 2 + R 4 ) ( R 2 + R 2 ) ) = 2 × ( R 2 + ( 3 R 4 ) ( 1 ) ) = 2 × ( R 2 + 3 R 4 × R 3 R 4 + R ) = 2 × ( R 2 + 3 R 7 ) = 13 7 R R 0 R = 13 7 \begin{aligned} R_0 & = 2 \times \left(\frac{R}{2} + \left(\frac{R}{2} + \frac{R}{4} \right) || \left(\frac{R}{2} + \frac{R}{2} \right) \right) = 2 \times \left(\frac{R}{2} + \left(\frac{3R}{4} \right) || \left( 1 \right) \right) \\ & = 2 \times \left(\frac{R}{2} + \frac{\frac{3R}{4} \times R}{\frac{3R}{4} + R} \right) = 2 \times \left(\frac{R}{2} + \frac{3R}{7} \right) = \frac{13}{7}R \\ \Rightarrow \frac{R_0}{R} & = \frac{13}{7} \end{aligned}

a + b + a b = 13 + 7 + 13 × 7 = 111 \Rightarrow a + b + ab = 13 + 7 + 13 \times 7 = \boxed{111}

I doubt whether C and G are having equal potential. Can you explain without using symmetry?

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 5 months ago

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Got it, no problem! Thanks for the solution!

Kishore S. Shenoy - 5 years, 5 months ago

Same method !

Chirayu Bhardwaj - 5 years, 4 months ago
Lu Chee Ket
Jan 13, 2016

Thing that should have been clearer in description was R R as resistance onto side of smallest unit of square! Let this be a summary:

R 0 = R_0 =~ [~ R R ~(3 R R // 4 R R )~ R R ~] // [~ R R ~(4 R R // 3 R R )~ R R ~] = [ 3 × 4 3 + 4 R + 2 R \frac{3 \times 4}{3 + 4} R + 2 R ] // [ 4 × 3 4 + 3 R + 2 R \frac{4 \times 3}{4 + 3} R + 2 R ] = 26 7 R × 1 2 = 13 7 R \frac{26}{7} R \times \frac12 = \frac{13}{7} R

13 + 7 + 13 × \times 7 = 111

Answer: 111 \boxed{111}

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