That's one huge yo-yo!

In an alien planet, an alien wants to play yo-yo. The gigantic yo-yo consists of two solid disks, each of mass 15 k g 15 kg and radius 5 m 5 m , connected by a central spindle of radius 2 m 2 m and negligible mass. A string is coiled around the central spindle. The yo-yo then is placed upright on a rough flat surface and the string is pulled gently with a tension of 10 N 10 N at an angle 3 0 30^\circ to the horizontal. The pull is gentle enough to ensure that that yo-yo does not slip nor lifts off the ground.

The acceleration of the center of mass of the yo-yo can be expressed in the form a b c d \dfrac{a\sqrt{b}-c}{d} . Where a a is as large as possible, g c d ( a , d ) = 5 gcd(a,d)=5 and g c d ( c , d ) gcd(c,d) =1. What is the value of a + b + c + d a+b+c+d ?

  • Assume that the only difference between the planet and earth is the size of the inhabitants and the planets, nothing else.


The answer is 57.

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3 solutions

Steven Zheng
Aug 19, 2014

This problem is quite tricky because you have to account for the rotational and linear motions. I've solved a simpler problem involving pulling a hockey puck (only one radius and disk).

For the rotational motion, we begin with the torque of the system. If we were to draw a free-body diagram, the large radius is tangential to the force of friction D D (D for dissipative) while the small radius is tangential to the tension of the string. Since we have two solid disks, the moment of inertia I I is M R 2 . M{R}^{2}. Hence the total torque can be summed up as: R D r T = M R 2 α = M R a RD-rT = M{R}^{2}\alpha =MRa or D r T R = M a . D-\frac{rT}{R} = Ma.

For the linear motion, we derive the net force T c o s ( 30 ) D = 2 M a . Tcos(30) - D = 2Ma.

Substituting the value of Ma from the linear motion to the rotational motion D r T R = T c o s ( 30 ) D 2 D-\frac{rT}{R}=\frac{Tcos(30) - D}{2}

which can be rearranged as: D = T ( c o s ( 30 ) + 2 r R ) 3 . D=\frac{T(cos(30)+\frac{2r}{R})}{3}.

Now we substitute this equation for D, and isolate the acceleration we arrive at the final equation: a = T 3 M ( c o s ( 30 ) r R ) . a = \frac{T}{3M} \left(cos(30) -\frac{r}{R}\right).

I also noticed an error with the question. The gcd(a,d) = 5.

plz help sir, also sir @Josh Silverman

hiroto kun - 4 years, 3 months ago

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Hi @hiroto kun , it's hard to read your diagram. Can you list the main steps you're confused about?

Josh Silverman Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

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i'm confused about " y my method is wrong" ?

hiroto kun - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Hiroto Kun OK, what I'm saying is I can't read your diagram partly because of handwriting, partly because you skip a lot of steps and put in specific numbers. If you can summarize your steps I can help out.

Josh Silverman Staff - 4 years, 3 months ago

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@Josh Silverman first i made free body diagram .resolved tension in 2 components . then applied torque equation . wrote acceleration = angular acceleration *Radius , the answer i got is mentioned above . thnx sir for seeing to it :). you're awesome .

hiroto kun - 4 years, 3 months ago

Oops, sorry! (I'll just follow what you say for now, I'll check it if I feel better)

Sean Ty - 6 years, 9 months ago

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The sign of the answer expression shall be positive. It shall be:- a b + c d \dfrac{a\sqrt{b}+c}{d}

Prakhar Gupta - 6 years, 6 months ago
Akul Agrawal
Oct 27, 2015

Nice solution! . but the problem is HIGHLY over-rated

Prakhar Bindal - 5 years, 6 months ago

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yeah it should have been level 4

Akul Agrawal - 5 years, 6 months ago
Shuvam Keshari
Nov 1, 2015

the question is inspired from the book "problems in general physics" by I.E Irodov

problem number 1.257

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