The Easy Minimum

Algebra Level 3

Find the minimum value of x 2 + y 2 \displaystyle \sqrt { { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 } } when 5 x + 12 y = 60 5x+12y=60 .

13 12 \displaystyle \cfrac { 13 }{ 12 } 60 13 \displaystyle \cfrac { 60 }{ 13 } 25 \displaystyle 25

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Soumo Mukherjee
Jan 8, 2015

Before reading further it would be good to have a look at this wiki .


x 2 + y 2 \displaystyle \sqrt { { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 } } represents the distance between Origin ( 0 , 0 ) \displaystyle \left( 0,0 \right) and the point ( x , y ) \displaystyle\left( x,y \right) . This point, i.e ( x , y ) \displaystyle\left( x,y \right) , also lies on the line 5 x + 12 y = 60 \displaystyle 5x+12y=60 .Now the minimum distance of a point from a line is the perpendicular distance from it. Hence, x 2 + y 2 \displaystyle \sqrt { { x }^{ 2 }+{ y }^{ 2 } } represents the perpendicular distance of Origin ( 0 , 0 ) \displaystyle \left( 0,0 \right) from the line 5 x + 12 y = 60 \displaystyle 5x+12y=60 . Which is equal to 60 5 × 0 12 × 0 5 2 + 12 2 = 60 13 \displaystyle \cfrac { \left| 60-5\times 0-12\times 0 \right| }{ \sqrt { { 5 }^{ 2 }+{ 12 }^{ 2 } } } =\cfrac { 60 }{ 13 } . Hence the answer.

In the last line within mod sign, you have taken 60-12-5, should it be really so? Shouldn't it be only 60???

Shubham Kundu - 6 years, 5 months ago

I have taken 60-12.0-5.0 Please don't overlook the 'dots' . They imply multiplication. I thought by doing so people can understand that I have replaced (x,y) by (0,0) in the distance formula.

Did I do anything wrong? @Shubham Kundu .

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

Nice problem and solution !

To denote multiplication, it is better to use \times or \cdot, as it avoids confusion.

Pranshu Gaba - 6 years, 5 months ago

@Pranshu Gaba Thanks.

I will replace them with multiplication sign.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

Absolutely not...I took them as 'point's, not multiplication signs!! misunderstanding

Shubham Kundu - 6 years, 5 months ago

@Shubham Kundu It happens sometimes... by the way I have replaced them with multiplication sign now as per @Pranshu Gaba 's suggestion.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

Thought of it this way after getting the answer using calculus . Nice solution ! :D

Keshav Tiwari - 6 years, 5 months ago

Thanks;)

In fact this Problem has much more methods.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

Another approach is to use Cauchy-Schwarz inequality:

( 5 2 + 1 2 2 ) ( x 2 + y 2 ) ( 5 x + 12 y ) 2 1 3 2 ( x 2 + y 2 ) 6 0 2 x 2 + y 2 6 0 2 1 3 2 x 2 + y 2 60 13 (5^2+12^2)(x^2+y^2) \geq (5x+12y)^2 \\ 13^2(x^2+y^2) \geq 60^2 \\ x^2+y^2 \geq \dfrac{60^2}{13^2} \\ \sqrt{x^2+y^2} \geq \boxed{\dfrac{60}{13}}

Actually same concept used as by Math Philic.

You used, (a^2+b^2)(x^2+y^2)>=(ax+by)^2 = c^2

and Math Philic used sqrt(x^2+y^2)>= c/sqrt(a^2+b^2)

Shubham Kundu - 6 years, 5 months ago

That's a wonderful idea! But you also have to argue why equality holds at some point of the line 5 x + 12 y = 60 5x+12y=60 .

José Miguel Manzano - 6 years, 5 months ago

Nice solution!

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

can we interpret the the first equation in this solution for all questions of this type?

gopi velayudhan - 6 years, 5 months ago
William Chau
Jan 9, 2015

The equation can be rewritten as x 12 + y 5 = 1 \frac{x}{12}+\frac{y}{5}=1 , which represents a line with x x -intercept 12 12 and y y -intercept 5 5 . So the line and the axes form a 5 12 13 5-12-13 right triangle. The minimum value h h of x 2 + y 2 \sqrt{x^2+y^2} is the height of the triangle with base 13 13 . Equating twice the area of the triangle in two different ways,

13 h = 5 × 12 13h = 5\times12 ,

h = 60 13 h = \frac{60}{13} .


[Latex edits - moderator]

I used a similar method. Did you do the same? See my solution.

You have a different perspective though, that is good.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 5 months ago

I really like this solution as it encourages visual thinking.

Mursalin Habib - 6 years, 5 months ago
Christopher Hsu
Jan 8, 2015

I recently learned Lagrange multipliers in my multivariable class. I decided to have fun with it. Lagrange multipliers find the relative maxes and mins based on a constraint on an expression.

The constraint is 5 x + 12 y = 60 5x + 12y = 60 , and we want to minimize x 2 + y 2 \sqrt{x^2+y^2}

The partial derivatives of the expression and the constraint gives these two equations, where λ \lambda is the multiplier:

1 2 × x 2 + y 2 × 2 x = λ × 5 \frac {1}{2 \times \sqrt{x^2+y^2}} \times 2x = \lambda \times 5

1 2 × x 2 + y 2 × 2 y = λ × 12 \frac {1}{2 \times \sqrt{x^2+y^2}} \times 2y = \lambda \times 12

1 2 × x 2 + y 2 \frac {1}{2 \times \sqrt{x^2+y^2}} can be referred to as f(x,y). Thus: 12 × f ( x , y ) × 2 x = 5 × f ( x , y ) × 2 y 12 \times f(x,y) \times 2x = 5 \times f(x,y) \times 2y

f(x,y) cannot equal zero, so the equation simplifies to: 12 x = 5 y 12x = 5y Plugging this back in, we can solve for either y or x. Substituting for x, 25 y 12 + 12 y = 60 \frac{25y}{12}+12y=60 .

y = 720 169 y=\frac{720}{169} and x = 300 169 x=\frac{300}{169} .

When plugged into the expression x 2 + y 2 \sqrt{x^2+y^2} , the answer comes out to be 60/13.

To be honest I have no idea where the max is. Thank god for multiple choice questions.

EDIT: After reading other solutions, it seems pretty easy now that it is the distance from the line. Creativity takes effort, and I don't like effort when I wake up. Mindlessly calculating is much easier. In this case, there wouldn't be a max because the maximum value is infinity.

Ramesh Goenka
Jan 24, 2015

another solution can be putting x=a which gives y= (60-5a)/12. plugging this in other equation which will be a quadratic in 'a' and the min(quadratic) is a well known exercise for mathsies.. !! :D

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