The Mirror Triangle

Calculus Level 5

Starting from an isosceles triangle, you draw a new triangle by reflecting each of the vertices about their opposite sides. If the base of the original triangle is fixed and the height is uniformly distributed on [ 0 , N ] [0,N] , what is the limit of the expected ratio of the areas as N N \to \infty ?


The answer is 3.

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2 solutions

Steven Chase
May 9, 2018

Suppose the height is uniformly distributed over ( 0 , ) (0,\infty) and the base is fixed at some finite value (say 2 2 , for example). Clearly then, for the vast majority of cases, the triangle will resemble a rectangle whose height is much larger than its base.

Then, when we mirror the vertices about the opposite sides, we get the following:

The base becomes wider by a factor of 3, and the height remains the same as the triangle / rectangle flips over. Thus, the overall area is multiplied by 3.

There's no such thing as a uniform distribution over ( 0 , ) (0, \infty) .

D G - 3 years, 1 month ago

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If we replace infinity with A, does the result hold for any finite A?

Steven Chase - 3 years, 1 month ago

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No, it only holds as a limit, which isn't what the question is asking.

D G - 3 years, 1 month ago

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@D G It's not particularly clear what the question is asking. That's the problem. So I'll assume that instead of inifinity, we have a very large finite number.

Steven Chase - 3 years, 1 month ago
Patrick Corn
Jul 6, 2018

Starting with a triangle of area y , y, with vertices at ( ± 1 , 0 ) (\pm 1,0) and ( 0 , y ) , (0,y), the new vertices are ( 0 , y ) (0,-y) and ( ± 3 y 2 1 y 2 + 1 , 4 y y 2 + 1 ) \left( \pm \frac{3y^2-1}{y^2+1}, \frac{4y}{y^2+1} \right) and the ratio of areas is ( 3 y 2 1 y 2 + 1 ) ( 4 y y 2 + 1 + y ) y = ( y 2 + 5 ) ( 3 y 2 1 ) ( y 2 + 1 ) 2 . \frac{\left( \frac{3y^2-1}{y^2+1} \right) \left( \frac{4y}{y^2+1} + y \right)}{y} = \frac{(y^2+5)(3y^2-1)}{(y^2+1)^2}. For a fixed height range ( 0 , h ) , (0,h), the average ratio is 1 h 0 h ( y 2 + 5 ) ( 3 y 2 1 ) ( y 2 + 1 ) 2 d y = 3 8 h 2 + 1 . \frac1{h} \int_0^h \frac{(y^2+5)(3y^2-1)}{(y^2+1)^2} \, dy = 3 - \frac8{h^2+1}. The limit of this as h h \to \infty is 3 . \fbox{3}.

(Actually, I don't need to compute the integral to compute the limit, since L'Hopital and the Fundamental Theorem of Calculus say that the limit should be equal to the limit of ( h 2 + 5 ) ( 3 h 2 1 ) ( h 2 + 1 ) 2 , \frac{(h^2+5)(3h^2-1)}{(h^2+1)^2}, which is 3. 3. )

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