The powers of 3

Algebra Level 1

( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) \large \left({\color{#3D99F6}3}^{23} - {\color{#3D99F6}3}^{22}\right)\left({\color{#3D99F6}3}^{24} - {\color{#3D99F6}3}^{23}\right) \left({\color{#3D99F6}3}^{25} - {\color{#3D99F6}3}^{24}\right)

This expression can be simplified as 2 m × 3 n {\color{#D61F06}2}^{\color{#69047E}m} \times {\color{#3D99F6}3}^{\color{teal}n} .

What is m + n ? {\color{#69047E}m} + {\color{teal}n}?

68 70 72 74 75

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P = ( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = 3 22 ( 3 1 ) × 3 23 ( 3 1 ) × 3 24 ( 3 1 ) = 3 22 ( 2 ) × 3 23 ( 2 ) × 3 24 ( 2 ) = 2 3 × 3 22 + 23 + 24 = 2 3 × 3 69 \begin{aligned} P & = \left(3^{23}-3^{22}\right)\left(3^{24}-3^{23}\right)\left(3^{25}-3^{24}\right) \\ & = 3^{22}(3-1)\times 3^{23}(3-1)\times 3^{24}(3-1) \\ & = 3^{22}(2)\times 3^{23}(2)\times 3^{24}(2) \\ & = 2^3 \times 3^{22+23+24} \\ & = 2^3\times 3^{69} \end{aligned}

Therefore, m + n = 3 + 69 = 72 m+n=3+69=\boxed{72} .

How do you get from (3/23-3/22) to 3/22(3-1)

D Alex Arango - 2 years, 11 months ago

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3 23 3 22 = 3 × 3 22 3 22 = 3 22 ( 3 1 ) {\color{#3D99F6}3^{23}}-3^{22} = {\color{#3D99F6}3\times 3^{22}} - 3^{22} = 3^{22}(3-1) .

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 11 months ago

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It is perfect

Pablo Chavez - 2 years, 11 months ago

But can't you pull out 3^22 as a common factor, and get 3^22(2)(3^2 - 3)(3^3 - 3^2)

which is 3^22(2)(9 - 3)(27 - 9)

or 3^22(2)(6)(18)

and simplifies to 3^22 * 216

Then, can't you pull a 3 from 216, to get

3^22 * 3(72)

or 3^23 * 72

Do it twice more, and you get

3^25 * 8

or 3^25 * 2^3

which gives a sum of 25 + 3 = 28.

So, isn't 28 also an answer?

James Carmody - 2 years, 10 months ago

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Wrong! It should be 3 22 × 3 ( 3 1 ) ( 9 3 ) ( 27 9 ) = 3 66 ( 2 ) ( 6 ) ( 18 ) = 2 3 3 69 3^{22\color{#D61F06}\times 3}(3-1)(9-3)(27-9) = 3^{66}(2)(6)(18) = 2^33^{69} . It cannot have two answers.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 10 months ago

Each factor in parentheses has a factor of 3 22 3^{22} . If you pull all three of these factors out, you get 3 66 216 3^{66} \cdot 216 , which leads to the correct answer of 72.

Jason Carrier - 2 years, 10 months ago

Nice solution!I also do the same shortcut!

Gia Hoàng Phạm - 2 years, 9 months ago
Ram Mohith
Jul 3, 2018

The given expression is : ( 3 23 3 22 ) × ( 3 24 3 23 ) × ( 3 25 3 24 ) \large \color{#20A900} (3^{23} - 3^{22}) \times (3^{24} - 3^{23}) \times (3^{25} - 3^{24})

3 22 ( 3 1 ) × 3 23 ( 3 1 ) × 3 24 ( 3 1 ) \implies \large 3^{22}(3 - 1) \times 3^{23}(3 - 1) \times 3^{24}(3 - 1)

2 × 2 × 2 × 3 22 × 3 23 × 3 24 \implies \large {\color{#3D99F6} 2 \times 2 \times 2} \times {\color{#20A900} 3^{22} \times 3^{23} \times 3^{24}}

2 3 × 3 22 + 23 + 24 \implies \large 2^3 \times 3^{22 + 23 + 24}

2 3 × 3 69 \implies \large {\color{#E81990}2}^{\color{#3D99F6}3} \times {\color{#20A900}3}^{\color{#3D99F6}69}

So, m = 3 , n = 69 m = 3, n= 69

Therefore, m + n = 72 \large \color{#3D99F6}m + n = 72

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Chandrashekar Giridharan - 2 years, 10 months ago

But can't you pull out 3^22 as a common factor, and get 3^22(2)(3^2 - 3)(3^3 - 3^2)

which is 3^22(2)(9 - 3)(27 - 9)

or 3^22(2)(6)(18)

and simplifies to 3^22 * 216

Then, can't you pull a 3 from 216, to get

3^22 * 3(72)

or 3^23 * 72

Do it twice more, and you get

3^25 * 8

or 3^25 * 2^3

which gives a sum of 25 + 3 = 28.

So, can't 28 also be an answer?

James Carmody - 2 years, 10 months ago

You forget that 3^22 should be written 3 times.

husni mubarok - 1 year, 10 months ago

It is easy to identify that all the numbers are beginning with 3

\large \therefore all that you have to do is factorize:

( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = 3 22 ( 3 1 ) × 3 23 ( 3 1 ) × 3 24 ( 3 1 ) Note: 3 - 1 = 2 which co-relates to the question = 3 22 ( 2 ) × 3 23 ( 2 ) × 3 24 ( 2 ) = 2 3 × 3 22 + 23 + 24 Using laws of exponetials 2 3 × 3 69 \begin{aligned} \color{#20A900} \large \implies \left(3^{23}-3^{22}\right)\left(3^{24}-3^{23}\right)\left(3^{25}-3^{24}\right) \\ & \color{#69047E} \large = 3^{22}(3-1)\times 3^{23}(3-1)\times 3^{24}(3-1) & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Note: 3 - 1 = 2 which co-relates to the question } \\ \\ & \color{#69047E} \large = 3^{22}(2)\times 3^{23}(2)\times 3^{24}(2) \\ & \color{#69047E} \large = 2^3 \times 3^{22+23+24} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Using laws of exponetials} \\ & \color{#D61F06} \large \implies \boxed{ 2^3\times 3^{69}} \end{aligned}

The question asks us to find the value of m + n {\color{#3D99F6}m + n} when the expression is equal to 2 m × 3 n {\color{#E81990}2}^{\color{#3D99F6}m} \times {\color{#20A900}3}^{\color{#3D99F6}n}

Therefore, m + n = 3 + 69 = 72 \color{#3D99F6} \large m + n = \color{#EC7300} 3 + 69 = \color{#20A900} \boxed{72}

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Simon The Great - 2 years, 10 months ago

But can't you pull out 3^22 as a common factor, and get 3^22(2)(3^2 - 3)(3^3 - 3^2)

which is 3^22(2)(9 - 3)(27 - 9)

or 3^22(2)(6)(18)

and simplifies to 3^22 * 216

Then, can't you pull a 3 from 216, to get

3^22 * 3(72)

or 3^23 * 72

Do it twice more, and you get

3^25 * 8

or 3^25 * 2^3

which gives a sum of 25 + 3 = 28.

So, can't 28 also be an answer?

James Carmody - 2 years, 10 months ago

Can someone show the work for a dum dum like me how to do the initial factorization such that you get (3^22)(3-1) etc?

Keith Glaser - 2 years, 10 months ago

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(3^23 - 3^22)

3^22 * 3 = 3^23 3^22 * 1 = 3^22 so when we factorize (3^23 - 3^22), we get (3^22)(3-1). Since both 3^23 and 3^22 can be divided by 3^22, and when we divide both 3^23 and 3^22 by 3^22 we get 3 and 1 respectively.

Hope this helps.

Simon The Great - 2 years, 10 months ago

( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) \large{\left(3^{23}-3^{22}\right)\left(3^{24}-3^{23}\right)\left(3^{25}-3^{24}\right)}

= 3 22 ( 3 1 ) ( 3 23 ) ( 3 1 ) ( 3 24 ) ( 3 1 ) \large{=3^{22}(3-1)\left(3^{23}\right)(3-1)\left(3^{24}\right)(3-1)} \implies Distributive Property \text{Distributive Property}

= 3 22 ( 2 ) ( 3 23 ) ( 2 ) ( 3 24 ) ( 2 ) \large{=3^{22}(2)\left(3^{23}\right)(2)\left(3^{24}\right)(2)}

= 2 1 + 1 + 1 ( 3 22 + 23 + 24 ) \large{=2^{1+1+1}\left(3^{22+23+24}\right)} \implies Laws of Exponents \text{Laws of Exponents}

= 2 3 ( 3 69 ) \large{=2^3\left(3^{69}\right)}

Therefore, m + n = 3 + 69 = 72 \large{m+n=3+69=}\huge{\boxed{72}}

Alex Jones
Jul 16, 2018

Notice that 3^n - 3^(n-1) = 3^(n-1) * 2. Thus the expression becomes 3^(23+24+25) * 2^3 so m+n = 72.

2 m × 3 n 2^{m} \times 3^{n} =( 3 23 3 22 3^{23} - 3^{22} ) ( 3 24 3 23 3^{24} -3^{23} ) ( 3 25 3 24 3^{25}-3^{24} )

\Rightarrow 3 22 ( 3 1 ) 3^{22} (3-1) × \times 3 23 ( 3 1 ) 3^{23} (3-1) × \times 3 24 ( 3 1 ) 3^{24} (3-1)

\Rightarrow 2 ( 3 22 × 3 23 × 3 24 3^{22} \times 3^{23} \times 3^{24} )

2 m × 3 n 2^{m} \times 3^{n} = 2 3 × 3 22 + 23 + 24 2^{3} \times 3^{22+23+24} = 2 3 × 3 69 2^{3} \times 3^{69}

Therefore, m+n = 3+69 = 72

Dan Cristinzio
Jul 20, 2018

There's a cheat for this format. Add together the first exponents in each set of brackets. 23+24+25=72

It works with other similar problems as well. I tried it with (4^16 - 4^15)(4^17 - 4^16)(4^18 - 4^17) and it came out to 51, both the proper and improper ways. Feel free to check my method on other possible sets, and comment on this if you come up with an example that it doesn't work for.

Yeah I think there is a trick here. This website is all about finding the shortcuts to problems.

Michelle Turco - 2 years, 10 months ago

Good Work. Now explain why it happens....

Dane Kasih - 2 years, 10 months ago

P = ( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = 3 22 × 3 ( 3 0 ( 3 1 ) × 3 1 ( 3 1 ) × 3 2 ( 3 1 ) ) = 3 22 × 3 ( 3 0 + 1 + 2 × ( 2 × 2 × 2 ) ) = 3 22 × 3 ( 3 3 × 2 3 ) = 3 22 × 3 + 3 × 2 3 = 3 69 × 2 3 \begin{aligned} P & = \left(3^{23}-3^{22}\right)\left(3^{24}-3^{23}\right)\left(3^{25}-3^{24}\right) \\ & = 3^{22\times 3}(3^0(3-1)\times 3^1(3-1)\times3^2(3-1)) \\ & = 3^{22\times3}(3^{0+1+2}\times (2\times2\times2)) \\ & = 3^{22\times3}(3^{3}\times2^{3}) \\ & = 3^{22\times3+3}\times2^{3} \\ & = 3^{69} \times2^{3} \\ & \end{aligned} Therefore, m + n = 3 + 69 = 72 m+n=3+69=\boxed{72} .

Abu Zar Moin
Jul 18, 2018

(3^23 -3^22) (3^24-3^23) (3^25 -3^24)

we can take 3^22, 3^23, 3^24 as common from 3 terms,then we get

3^22(3 -1) 3^23(3-1) 3^24(2-1)

=3^(22+23+24) *2^3

now m=69 and n=3

so m+n=72

Kimberly Rae
Jul 17, 2018

We have: ( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = 2 m × 3 n (3^{23}-3^{22})(3^{24}-3^{23})(3^{25}-3^{24}) = 2^m \times 3^n

Expanding:

= ( 3 49 3 46 3 46 + 3 45 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = 3 72 3 71 3 71 + 3 70 3 71 + 3 70 + 3 70 3 69 = (3^{49}-3^{46}-3^{46}+3^{45})(3^{25}-3^{24}) = 3^{72}-3^{71}-3^{71}+3^{70}-3^{71}+3^{70}+3^{70}-3^{69}

= 3 72 3 × 3 71 + 3 × 3 70 3 69 = 3^{72} - 3 \times 3^{71} + 3 \times 3^{70} - 3^{69}

= 3 72 3 72 + 3 71 3 69 = 3^{72} - 3^{72} +3^{71} -3^{69}

= 3 71 3 69 = 3^{71} -3^{69}

Take = 3 69 = 3^{69} as a common factor

= 3 69 ( 9 1 ) = 3^{69}(9-1)

= 3 69 × 2 3 = 3^{69} \times 2^3

Thus n= 69 and m =3 and m+n=72

Gia Hoàng Phạm
Aug 16, 2018

( 3 23 3 22 ) ( 3 24 3 23 ) ( 3 25 3 24 ) = ( 3 1 ) 3 2 2 × ( 3 1 ) 3 2 3 × ( 3 10 ) 3 2 4 = ( 3 1 ) 3 ( 3 23 × 3 24 × 3 25 ) = 2 3 × 3 22 + 23 + 24 = 2 3 × 3 69 (3^{23}-3^{22})(3^{24}-3^{23})(3^{25}-3^{24})=(3-1)3^22 \times (3-1)3^23 \times (3-10)3^24=(3-1)^3(3^{23} \times 3^{24} \times 3^{25})=2^3 \times 3^{22+23+24}=2^3 \times 3^{69} So, m + n = 3 + 69 = 72 m+n=3+69=\boxed{\large{72}}

Tyler Ngo
Jul 23, 2018

a^x-a^(x-1)=(a-1)^x

So 3^23-3^22=2^23

Further explanation: 3^22=(3^23)/3

3^23-(3^23)/3=(3-3/3)^23=2^23

(I’m not completely sure about this step)

Doing this for each of the parentheses would then provide

2^23x2^24x2^25

2^(23+24+25)=2^72

Edit: nevermind 3^69x2^3>2^72 but I hope I’m on the right path to the 23+24+25 answer phenomenon

Jade Walsh
Jul 20, 2018

Just multiply out the three brackets (a bit messy but it works). You will get eight terms in the form +- 3 x 3 y 3 z 3^x3^y3^z (for example the first term is 3 23 3 24 3 25 3^{23}3^{24}3^{25} ) Simplifying by realizing that ( a x a y a z ) = a x + y + z (a^xa^ya^z) = a^{x + y + z} ) gives:

3 72 3 ( 3 71 ) + 3 ( 3 70 ) 3 69 3^{72} - 3(3^{71}) +3(3^{70}) - 3^{69} (1)

= 3 69 ( 3 3 3 ( 3 2 ) + 3 ( 3 ) 1 ) = 3^{69}(3^3 -3(3^2) +3(3) - 1)

= 3 69 ( 3 3 3 3 + 3 2 1 ) = 3^{69}(3^3 - 3^3 +3^2 -1)

= 3 69 ( 8 ) = 3^{69}(8)

= 3 69 ( 2 3 ) = 3^{69}(2^3)

Therefore;

n = 69 n = 69 and m = 3 m = 3

m + n = 72 m + n = 72

Alternatively you could realise in line (1) that 3 ( 3 71 ) = 3 72 3(3^{71}) = 3^{72} and so the first two terms cancel out. Same method and result but it's that bit cleaner.

Michael Armstrong
Jul 20, 2018

I just had a gut feeling that the answer had to be divisible by 9, and only 72 worked.

Here it is a single option question. So option verification works. What if it is a descriptive question or integer type question.

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Cayo Morais
Jul 17, 2018

Please, is just a coincidence that summing 23+24+25 we can get the right result?

No it is not a coincidence, because 3^23 - 3^22 = 3^23 (approximately) So, 3^23 x 3^24 x 3^25 = 3^72 3^72 = 2^0 x 3^72 0 + 72 =72

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