Transformer (8-12-2020)

A transformer is governed by the following equations:

E 1 = Z S I 1 + Z M I 2 E 2 = Z M I 1 + Z S I 2 E_1 = Z_S I_1 + Z_M I_2 \\ E_2 = Z_M I_1 + Z_S I_2

In the equations, E 1 E_1 and E 2 E_2 are the terminal voltages and I 1 I_1 and I 2 I_2 are the terminal currents (note the polarity conventions in the diagram). Z S Z_S and Z M Z_M are the transformer winding self and mutual impedances.

An AC voltage source with internal voltage E S E_S and internal impedance Z 1 Z_1 is connected across the first set of terminals, and an impedance Z 2 Z_2 is connected across the second set of terminals. Let Z 2 Z_2 be purely resistive ( Z 2 = R + j 0 ) (Z_2 = R + j 0) .

What is the limiting value of the magnitude of I 1 I_1 as R R approaches infinity?

Bonus: This result is a bit surprising. What conclusion can be drawn?

Details and Assumptions:
1) E S = 10 + j 0 E_S = 10 + j 0
2) Z 1 = 2 + j 5 Z_1 = 2 + j 5
3) Z S = 0 + j 10 Z_S = 0 + j 10
4) Z M = 0 + j 5 Z_M = 0 + j 5
5) Consider all quantities to be complex numbers. The quantity j j is the imaginary unit


The answer is 0.6608.

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2 solutions

Steven Chase
Aug 13, 2020

@Lil Doug has given a clever solution centered around representing the load resistance in terms of the other quantities. I will approach it in a more conventional way, and elaborate on the bonus.

Expand the left sides of the equations in terms of other quantities.

E 1 = E S Z 1 I 1 = Z S I 1 + Z M I 2 E 2 = Z 2 I 2 = Z M I 1 + Z S I 2 E_1 = E_S - Z_1 I_1 = Z_S I_1 + Z_M I_2 \\ E_2 = -Z_2 I_2 = Z_M I_1 + Z_S I_2

Simplify:

E S = ( Z S + Z 1 ) I 1 + Z M I 2 0 = Z M I 1 + ( Z S + Z 2 ) I 2 E_S = (Z_S + Z_1) I_1 + Z_M I_2 \\ 0 = Z_M I_1 + (Z_S + Z_2) I_2

From this point, one can readily solve for the currents. Take the limit of I 1 |I_1| as the magnitude of Z 2 Z_2 goes to infinity. If the transformer were ideal (just a ratio changer for voltage and current), we would expect both I 1 I_1 and I 2 I_2 to go to zero as the load impedance increases. This does not happen, which indicates that the mathematics does not describe an ideal transformer.

Instead, it describes a more realistic representation of a transformer which contains series impedances called "leakage impedances", as well as a shunt impedance called a "magnetizing impedance". In the diagram below, the non-ideal transformer on the left can be represented (on the right) as an ideal transformer connected to these leakage and magnetizing impedances. The leakage and magnetizing impedance values can be expressed in terms of Z S Z_S and Z M Z_M .

In this problem, when the load impedance becomes infinite, current I 1 I_1 can still flow through the magnetizing impedance. The current measured in the "no load" (infinite load impedance) condition is known as the "magnetizing current".

Is it posted now??

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

I just posted it

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase in your new problem the concept will be of Moment of Inertia only??
That M R 2 MR^{2} or it is a different type of moment of inertia?
Like in my knowledge the moment of inertia of Disc is M r 2 2 \frac{Mr^{2}}{2} about perpendicular to it's plane and passing through original.
Are you asking about this type of. Moment of inertia only????
Please reply.


Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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Yes, it's the same type

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase sir do you have any idea that how Brilliant decide level of a particular problem.
I think they have 5 cheats of paper folded, and inside ever consecutive cheat 1,2,3,4,5 level are written.
After that they throw them in air and one selected cheat will be the level of problem.
Your new problem has got level 2 and i think in my opinion the most toughest problem of flux in whole world is my Complex flux, which has also got level 2

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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From what I have observed, it is based on the initial rating you give the problem, as well as the percentage of people who solve it correctly.

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase can you use python code to solve this one
Thanks in advance
Hope I am not disturbing you.

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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Why do you want code for this? It is easy to show by hand that the slope of one curve is the negative reciprocal of the slope of the other curve. The curves therefore make a 90 degree angle where they intersect.

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

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@Steven Chase it is in this question only.
Sometimes the curve doesn't make 90 degree.and it also becomes large while evaluating with pen. By using python code can we find?

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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@Talulah Riley If you derive the d y d x \frac{dy}{dx} expressions for both curves, you will find that the product of the two is negative one. This means that at any point of intersection, the curves are at a right angle.

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase Thank you so much sir, Thanks, it means a lot. Thanks

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase can you help me in this problem, by solving it anaylitically
Thanks in advance Hope I am not disturbing you.

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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This one is fairly easy to do with code and hard to do by hand.

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

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@Steven Chase Please use pen only.

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase so are you trying this question or not??

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

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Probably not by hand

Steven Chase - 10 months ago

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@Steven Chase finally i solved it. Hope this will help you too

Talulah Riley - 10 months ago

@Steven Chase sir Why Brilliant is not again adding that feature of how many people have solved the problem till now on such a big demand.
Can we do something more.
Anyhow I want to see that feature as fast as possible?
Can you do something? .

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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I doubt that it will get fixed. They probably just tried to remove the feature and didn't remove it completely.

Steven Chase - 9 months, 2 weeks ago
Talulah Riley
Aug 12, 2020

Nice problem.
I think the surprising results which can be drawn is at a particular value of I 1 I_{1} , the Z 2 Z_{2} will behave like a \infty resistance.
Am I correct?? Please correct me if I am wrong :)

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