Transformer Exercise

A particular transformer is governed by the following equations:

E 1 = Z S I 1 + Z M I 2 E 2 = Z M I 1 + Z S I 2 E_1 = Z_S I_1 + Z_M I_2 \\ E_2 = Z_M I_1 + Z_S I_2

In the equations, E 1 E_1 and E 2 E_2 are the terminal voltages and I 1 I_1 and I 2 I_2 are the terminal currents (note the polarity conventions in the diagram). Z S Z_S and Z M Z_M are the transformer self and mutual impedances.

An ideal AC voltage source E S E_S is connected across the first set of terminals, and a resistor R R is connected across the second set of terminals.

What is the magnitude of E 2 E_2 ?

Details and Assumptions:
1) E S = 10 E_S = 10
2) R = 10 R = 10
3) Z S = j 10 Z_S = j 10
4) Z M = j 5 Z_M = j 5
5) Consider all quantities to be complex numbers. The quantity j j is the imaginary unit

Bonus: What happens with ( Z S , Z M ) = ( j 1 , j 0.5 ) (Z_S, Z_M) = (j 1, j 0.5) or ( Z S , Z M ) = ( j 0.1 , j 0.05 ) (Z_S, Z_M) = (j 0.1, j 0.05) ? How can this be interpreted?


The answer is 4.0.

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2 solutions

Karan Chatrath
Jul 8, 2020

@Alak Bhattacharya has already provided a solution to the problem. I am addressing the bonus question.

Say we define a factor f f , called the 'dividing factor' which increases from 1 to any large number in small steps and the impedances vary with this factor as such:

Z S = j 10 f Z_S = j \frac{10}{f} Z M = j 5 f Z_M = j \frac{5}{f}

So this way, the effect of scaling down the impedances can be analysed.

One can see here that as the impedances get scaled-down, the transformer's behaviour converges to that of an ideal step down transformer with the output voltage magnitude tends towards being half of the source voltage magnitude.

I hope my conclusion is correct.

Thanks for looking at the bonus. Yes, the key takeaway is that the transformer given is not an ideal transformer. It can be represented as a series impedance, known as a "leakage impedance", in series with an ideal transformer. And then your comment about the convergence applies.

Steven Chase - 11 months, 1 week ago

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@Steven Chase sir i am not able to make a very hard question therefore the dedication problem will take some more time
BTW how can we solve this problem
Analytically, as the two block was solved, That one was very easy to deal. But this time it is getting hard for me.
@Karan Chatrath sir i also want you to join our discussion.


A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 1 week ago

@Steven Chase sir when did you uploaded part 2 , is it now?

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Yes, just a minute ago

Steven Chase - 11 months ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase I was just roaming here and there.
Suddenly I noticed part 2 is written there.And I am trying it now.
Anyway, Good Morning.

@Karan Chatrath Sir for your new problem I have solved it but with Laplace, I am not getting answer,
Below i have attached my attempt.
Thanks in advance

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The equation of motion is incorrect. The step where you take Laplace transform on both sides is also incorrect.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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Method of undetermined coefficients should suffice, I suppose. Or my personal favorite; numerical integration

Steven Chase - 11 months ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase Hii,
Can we start some new exercise like transformer???

@Karan Chatrath sir is the first equation correct??

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@A Former Brilliant Member No, there is a tiny error there.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath i don't think because I have solved that differential equations and solved your problem correctly in after 1hr after you upload.
But I want Laplace.
Please correct me if I am wrong

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@A Former Brilliant Member You wrote:

x ¨ = 16 16 x + sin ( 4 t ) \ddot{x} = -16 -16x + \sin(4t)

Whereas the correct equation should be:

x ¨ = 16 16 x + sin ( 4 t ) \ddot{x} = 16 -16x + \sin(4t) Take laplace transform on both sides:

s 2 X 2 s = 16 s 16 X + 4 16 + s 2 s^2X - 2s = \frac{16}{s} - 16X + \frac{4}{16+s^2} X = 16 s + 4 16 + s 2 + 2 s s 2 + 16 X = \frac{\frac{16}{s} + \frac{4}{16+s^2} +2s}{s^2+16}

And proceed...

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath sir I am getting - sign on that 16 also.
Ok wait let me share my approach.

@Karan Chatrath consider 2nd page as 1st page.
And 1st page as second page

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Your first equation is definitely wrong. Look up the definition of spring force. The equation for total energy is also incorrect. As for getting the correct answer, I think you got lucky here.

E 1 2 k x 2 E \ne \frac{1}{2}kx^2

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath
BTW I am a very unlucky guy
So what is the equation of energy????

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@A Former Brilliant Member E = 1 2 M x ˙ 2 + 1 2 K ( x L o ) 2 E = \frac{1}{2}M \dot{x}^2 + \frac{1}{2}K\left(x-L_o\right)^2

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath i was getting x ˙ = 0 \dot{x}=0 at that time.

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@A Former Brilliant Member If x ˙ = 0 \dot{x} = 0 , then x = c o n s t a n t x = \mathrm{constant} . The particle stays at rest throughout time. That is not true. Try to physically interpret the results of any mathematical evaluation. That would be a useful quality to develop.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath sir according to your calculations, what velocity of block you are getting at t = 9 π 2 \Huge t=\frac{9π}{2}

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@A Former Brilliant Member Okay, I see your point. I realised that I misunderstood your previous comment. The velocity at that instant is indeed zero. However, your expression for PE was still not okay.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath But sir why
I am taking x x as extension.

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@A Former Brilliant Member If you are taking x x as extension then why is x ( 0 ) = 2 x(0)=2 ? Also, why have you defined spring force as 16 ( x + 1 ) -16(x+1) ? Does not make sense.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

@A Former Brilliant Member You need to fix two things:

  • The spring force expression in your equation of motion. This will modify your result slightly.

  • The expression for potential energy.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

@Karan Chatrath x = x T o t a l l e n g t h L 0 \Large x=x_{Total length}-{L_{0}}

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In our discussion, I have assumed that you have complied with the nomenclature that I have used in the problem statement. There x x is not an extension but it is a coordinate. You need to explain these things more clearly in your working.

Moreover, if you used x x as extension, then x ( 0 ) = 2 x(0)=2 is not a correct initial condition. I admire your attempt, but your solution is flawed.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath no ,sorry.
Consider x as length in 1st page Consider x as y in second page and y = x L 0 y=x-L_{0}
Therefore I am getting correct answer.

@Karan Chatrath in first page consider x x as length and in second page consider x x as extension.
It is a variable.
I don't think it will create any confusion.
I know it is my mistake .

@Karan Chatrath Sir can we solve integration using Laplace??
Thanks in advance.

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Yes, but it depends on the type of integral

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath The link which you have provided me have that??
That how to solve Integration using Laplace transform??

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@A Former Brilliant Member Since the Laplace transform is itself an integral, it can u=be used to evaluate integrals which are similar to its form. So yes, the link I shared is useful.

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

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@Karan Chatrath @Karan Chatrath please I want one example
Integrate this using Laplace sec x + 1 d x \int \sqrt{\sec x+1}dx
Thank you very much in Advance.
Please reply.

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@A Former Brilliant Member I said in my previous comment that integrals of a similar form as the Laplace transform definition can be evaluated using Laplace. Moreover, indefinite integrals cannot be solved using Laplace.

The form which can be evaluated using the Laplace transform is:

I = 0 e s t f ( t ) d t I = \int_{0}^{\infty} \mathrm{e}^{-st} f(t) \ dt

Karan Chatrath - 11 months ago

Using the given data, we get the equations

10 j I 1 + 5 j I 2 = 10 10jI_1+5jI_2=10

5 j I 1 + 10 j I 2 = 10 I 2 I 1 = 2 ( 1 j ) j I 2 5jI_1+10jI_2=10I_2\implies I_1=\dfrac {2(1-j)}{j}I_2

Solving we get

I 2 = 2 4 3 j E 2 = I 2 R = 20 4 3 j I_2=\dfrac {2}{4-3j}\implies E_2=I_2R=\dfrac {20}{4-3j}

E 2 = 20 4 2 + 3 2 = 4 \implies |E_2|=\dfrac {20}{\sqrt {4^2+3^2}}=\boxed 4

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