A right triangle has side lengths that are the roots of the polynomial x 3 − 2 0 x 2 + k x − 1 7 , where k is some positive real number. The area of the triangle can be written in the form p − q , where p and q are positive integers and q is not divisible by the square of any prime.
Find p + q .
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Let a , b , c be the roots of the polynomial. WLOG, suppose a ≤ b < c . Since a , b , c are the side lengths of a right triangle, we must have a 2 + b 2 = c 2 by the Pythagorean Theorem. Furthermore, from Vieta's, we have
a + b + c a b c = 2 0 = 1 7 .
The first equation can be written as a + b = 2 0 − c , while the second equation can be written as a b = c 1 7 .
Now, we use the fact that ( a + b ) 2 = a 2 + b 2 + 2 a b . Substituting, we can get a quadratic equation in terms of only c :
( a + b ) 2 ( 2 0 − c ) 2 4 0 0 − 4 0 c + c 2 4 0 0 − 4 0 c 4 0 0 c − 4 0 c 2 − 4 0 c 2 + 4 0 0 c − 3 4 2 0 c 2 − 2 0 0 c + 1 7 = a 2 + b 2 + 2 a b = c 2 + 2 ( c 1 7 ) = c 2 + c 3 4 = c 3 4 = 3 4 = 0 = 0 .
Applying the quadratic formula (and skipping over all the arithmetic), we get c = 1 0 5 0 ± 2 4 1 5 .
But, there are two possible values for c ! Which one do we choose? (Of course, only one of the choices for c gives the area in the form we want, but this solution makes it more rigorous.)
EDIT: As Wei Chen points out, we can use the fact that a 2 + b 2 ≥ 2 a b to get c 2 ≥ c 3 4 , or c ≥ 3 4 1 / 3 . This immediately gets rid of the smaller value of c , so we can skip all the proceeding work.
We can get a hint from our original equations involving a and b . If we substitute our value of c back into these equations, we find that
a b = 1 0 5 0 ± 2 4 1 5 1 7 = 5 0 ± 2 4 1 5 1 7 ⋅ 1 0 = 2 5 0 0 − 2 4 1 5 2 ⋅ 8 5 ( 5 0 ∓ 2 4 1 5 ) = 2 ( 5 0 ∓ 2 4 1 5 )
and
a + b = 2 0 − 1 0 5 0 ± 2 4 1 5 = 1 0 1 5 0 ∓ 2 4 1 5 = 1 0 1 0 0 + 5 0 ∓ 2 4 1 5 .
Let C = 5 0 ± 2 4 1 5 , where we choose one of either the plus or the minus sign. Now, we have the system of equations
a + b a b = 1 0 C + 1 0 0 = 2 C .
The second equation gives b = a 2 C . Substituting this into the first equation gives
a + a 2 C 1 0 a 2 + 2 0 C 1 0 a 2 − ( C + 1 0 0 ) a + 2 0 C = a C + 1 0 0 = ( C + 1 0 0 ) a = 0 .
The solutions to this equation, through the quadratic formula and a little simplification, are a = 2 0 ( C + 1 0 0 ) ± C 2 − 6 0 0 C + 1 0 0 2 .
If C = 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 (corresponding to c = 1 0 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ), then we can say C ≈ 1 0 0 . This shows that C 2 − 6 0 0 C + 1 0 0 2 < 0 , so a cannot be a real number. This cannot happen, as a is a side length in a triangle.
However, if C = 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 (corresponding to c = 1 0 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 ), then C ≈ 0 , and C 2 − 6 0 0 C + 1 0 0 2 > 0 . What's more, because C is slightly above 0 , C 2 − 6 0 0 C + 1 0 0 2 is slightly less than 1 0 0 2 , so a is less than 2 0 C + 1 0 0 ± 1 0 0 , which is a real number no matter whether we choose the positive or the negative sign. Similarly, b must also be a real number. Thus, in order to have a right triangle, we must choose C = 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 .
Going all the way back, we now see that a b = 2 ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) . The area of the right triangle is, therefore, equal to 2 a b = 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 , and p + q = 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 = 2 4 6 5 .
Addendum: The right triangle has side lengths
a = 2 0 ( 1 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 ) + ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) 2 − 6 0 0 ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) + 1 0 0 2 ≈ 9 . 9 1 3 b = 2 0 ( 1 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 ) − ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) 2 − 6 0 0 ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) + 1 0 0 2 ≈ 0 . 1 7 3 c = 1 0 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 ≈ 9 . 9 1 4 .
One can check that a 2 + b 2 = c 2 , along with all the other equations involving Vieta's.
We can use the inequality a^2+b^2 >= 2ab, to get c^2 >= 2(17/c), which gives c >= (34)^1/3. This rules out the smaller solution of c right away.
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There's the simplification! I wrote my solution late at night, so it was easy for me to miss shortcuts like that. Thanks!
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Sure Steven, nice problem and well-written solution!
The main part of the problem is look for 'right' value of c .. :-p
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Pretty much, although that's easy based on the form that the answer is supposed to be in. My solution just makes it more rigorous and shows that the other selection does not work.
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Let the side lengths and hence the roots of the polynomial be a , b and c with c being the hypotenuse and hence by Pythagorean theorem a 2 + b 2 = c 2 . From Vieta's formula , we have { a + b + c = 2 0 a b c = 1 7 . . . ( 1 ) . . . ( 2 )
From equation (1):
a + b + c a + b a 2 + 2 a b + b 2 a b a b c 2 0 c 2 − 2 0 0 c + 1 7 ⟹ c = 2 0 = 2 0 − c = 4 0 0 − 4 0 c + c 2 = 2 0 0 − 2 0 c = 2 0 0 c − 2 0 c 2 = 0 = 1 0 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 Squaring both sides Note that a 2 + b 2 = c 2 Multiplying both sides by c Note that (2): a b c = 1 7 Solving the quadratic for c 1 0 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ≈ 0 . 0 8 5 7 too small for c
The area of the triangle is
A = 2 a b = 2 c a b c = 2 ⋅ 1 0 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 1 7 = ( 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 ) ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) 8 5 ( 5 0 − 2 4 1 5 ) = 5 0 − 2 4 1 5
⟹ p + q = 5 0 + 2 4 1 5 = 2 4 6 5