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Geometry Level 2

How many times in a day (00:00-24:00) do the minute and hour hands of an analog clock form a 18 0 180^\circ angle, i.e. form a long, straight line?

22 23 24 25

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13 solutions

Marta Reece
Jun 22, 2018

The minute hand goes around 24 24 times in 24 24 hours.

The hour hand goes around, in the same direction, 2 2 times in 24 24 hours.

Relative to the hour hand, the minute hand goes around 24 2 = 22 24-2=22 times

assuming all the relative positions, including directly opposite each other, 22 \boxed{22} times.

I don't understand why is not 24 and why you subtract 2 :(

Lucia Garcia - 2 years, 11 months ago

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It's the relative motion of the hands.

Marta Reece - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Can you further explain? Your statement is very obscure.

Mason Nakamura - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Mason Nakamura Ask yourself : for n hour which n min correspond? For example at 2 h the minute align at 40m plus something (because the 2 of 2:40 is not the same as the 2 of 2:00. The motion is continuous. ) And after consider the 5h 6h case.

M. Cornaz - 2 years, 11 months ago

Nor do I. I’m frustrated that I cannot re-read the question after submitting my answer. BRILLIANT!!!

Dorothy Riddle - 2 years, 11 months ago

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What? You can't? I can...

Boyd Maduro - 2 years, 11 months ago

Concise :)

Larry Gu - 2 years, 11 months ago

Excuses,I wonder why doesn't it go in the same direction from 6 to 7?I am a green hand in English.

Zhang shuai - 2 years, 11 months ago

The hour hand does not jump from a number to the next, therefore it's just at 6.00 AM and 18.00 PM, nor 12.30 nor 04.50 are straight lines

Gian Paolo Baranzoni - 2 years, 11 months ago

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ThiS! it's a trick question! Your answer is correct but its not one of the options.

Ark Car - 2 years, 11 months ago

12:30 indeed isn't a straight Line, Just a little bit past 12:30 is though ;) (About 12:32:30 or something like that)

Boyd Maduro - 2 years, 11 months ago

The question specifically named the starting and finishing times as 00:00 - 24:00, so I assumed that both the starting and finishing times were to be counted and came up with 23. Sneaky question!

John Pabrinkis - 2 years, 11 months ago

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I did the same generally there are questions on how many times do the two hands coincide which includes the starting and ending times and gives 25 as answer

Chaitnya Shrivastava - 2 years, 11 months ago

No the hands have to 180 degrees pointing in opposite directions.

Dave Grubwieser - 2 years, 11 months ago

I don’t understand why it isn’t 23.

מאיה טראו - 2 years, 11 months ago

GIF explanation of this solution will be much appreciated

Tomáš Pavlat - 2 years, 11 months ago

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I think that this might help: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11zsaFdBm4mqiijEN0V6y7w5NlkK3YPbC/view?usp=sharing

Yaser Prog - 2 years, 11 months ago

I got 24. Please explain which one of these times is incorrect: Begins at 0:00 (12 am) Monday, ends at 24:00 (12 pm) Monday

1. 00:30 Monday   (12:30 am)
2. 01:35 Monday   (1:35 am)
3. 02:40 Monday   (2:40 am)
4. 03:45 Monday   (3:45 am)
5. 04:50 Monday   (4:50 am)
6. 05:55 Monday   (4:55 am)
7. 06:00 Monday   (6:00 am)
8. 07:05 Monday   (7:05 am)
9. 08:10 Monday   (8:10 am)
10. 09:15 Monday   (9:15 am)
11. 10:20 Monday (10:15 am)
12. 11:25 Monday (11:25 am)
13. 12:30 Monday (12:30 pm)
14. 13:35 Monday   (1:35 pm)
15. 14:40 Monday   (2:40 pm)
16. 15:45 Monday   (3:15 pm)
17. 16:50 Monday   (4:50 pm)
18. 17:55 Monday   (5:55 pm)
19. 18:00 Monday   (6:00 pm)
20. 19:05 Monday   (7:05 pm)
21. 20:10 Monday   (8:10 pm)
22. 22:15 Monday   (9:15 pm)
23. 22:20 Monday (10:20 pm)
24. 23:25 Monday (11:25 pm)

nikly notforutoknow - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Yeah that's right.

Amal P Franglin - 2 years, 11 months ago

That’s correct . May be there’s a mistake in the question

Igor Domrev - 2 years, 11 months ago

hey The times you've mentioned is incorrect! Like for 12:30, the hour hand is not exactly at 12 at 12:30. It has moved by 15 deg..Hence angle is 165 deg :)

Shav Imigne - 2 years, 11 months ago

If you have an analog clock try to get 5:55 and 17:55 and you will see ;)

Thep-ananh Virathavone - 2 years, 11 months ago

Because both hands are moving gradually (often in 1 minute intervals, though sometimes continually as well), meaning that the 5:55 occurence would move to 5:59 if jumping by 1-minute intervals, if they are moving continually, the occurence at 5:55 on your list and the occurence at 06:00 both happen at exactly 06:00, and we would therefore take out one occurence in each 12 hour period. However, this does require that they move continuously, else you can’t eliminate the 5:00-5:59 occurence, as the hour hand will not jump to 6 until 06:00 (they usually don’t round to the closest correct position, they only take the position after it has become correct)

Brandur Arnoarson - 2 years, 11 months ago

The hours should be: 1. 24:30 (12:30 pm) 2. 1:40 (13:40) 3. 2:45 (14:45) 4. 3:50 (15:50) 5. 4:55 (16:55) 6. 6:00 (18:00) 7. 7:05 (19:05) 8. 8:10 (20:10) 9. 9:15 (21:15) 10. 10:20 (22:20) 11. 11:25 (23:25) Sum up all the hours written and you'll get 22.

Shiran Yazdi - 2 years, 11 months ago

I got 24 times. Then how is it 22. I really don't understand.

Amal P Franglin - 2 years, 11 months ago

Many analog clocks move the hour hand in 1-minute intervals instead of continual movement. If it does not move continually, there is an occurence at 5:59 and another occurence at 06:00, with continuous movement, both of these occurences happen at the same time, and we cannot distinguish between them, so the answer would be 22. The question does need to state the assumption that both hands are moving continuously, and not in jumps of 1-minute intervals, as both types are normal in analog clocks

Brandur Arnoarson - 2 years, 11 months ago

why the ans is not 24?

Sanjoy Roy - 2 years, 11 months ago

Thanks for explaining I got 24 - I Understand

Juanita LillianAva Reid Reid - 2 years, 11 months ago

I didn't understand the solution at first, so here's a link of a GIF from the basic simulation I made to count them: https://drive.google.com/file/d/11zsaFdBm4mqiijEN0V6y7w5NlkK3YPbC/view?usp=sharing

Yaser Prog - 2 years, 11 months ago

I had a question: would every opposite faces of the clock relate to a 180 degree? For instance, 01:35, 02:40, 03:45, 04:50, 05:55 and their 24 hr representative would not be perfect 180 degree since there would be deviation.

Som Paul - 2 years, 11 months ago
Jeremy Galvagni
Jun 24, 2018

There is one time during each hour except the 5 o'clock hour (and again during the 17:00s) because by the time the minute hand is directly across from the hour hand it is 6:00.

What about 5:55?

Michael Polson - 2 years, 11 months ago

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At 5:55 the hour hand is almost straight down. Remember the hour hand doesn't stay pointed at the 5, where it is at 5:00. By 5:55 its nearly at the 6. The minute hand has to go a bit further. By the time the minute hand has gone far enough, it's 6:00.

Jeremy Galvagni - 2 years, 11 months ago

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The image is misleading then. The 12:30 shown at the image is wrong as well, at 12:30, the hour hand should be between 12 and 1.

IR J - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Ir J The image shows 6:00, not 12:30.

Slemmen Firefiresju - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Slemmen Firefiresju owhh hahaha. sorry. you're right. I barely saw which is longer for the two hand are almost of the same length.

IR J - 2 years, 11 months ago

This means the hour hand moves in small increments between each two hours, which means the whole puzzle is invalid as the two hands won't make a straight 180 degrees, maybe never maybe with a very different calculation, only if the hour hand jumps directly to each next hour shall this puzzle be valid, still, 22 is the correct answer.

Mahmoud Fouad - 2 years, 11 months ago

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@Mahmoud Fouad It’s still valid, it just means that the hour hand moves 1 “minute” every 12 minutes, so at 4:48 to 5:00 it will be at the “24-minute” tick, meaning that if the minute hand lands on the “56-minute” tick in the same interval, they will be exactly opposite eachother. Let’s assume that instead of moving in minute-tick jumps, both hands move continuously, you can continue the thought from above to prove that they will be 180-degrees from eachother at some point, but I won’t get into that calculation here. If the hour hand jumps in 1-hour intervals, the two hands will be opposite eachother at 5:55 and 6:00, this would mean they would be opposite 24 hours in 24 hours, by considering the gradual movement, these 2 situations both happen at exactly 6:00, and we can therefore justify “only” being opposite eachother 22 times in 24 hours

Brandur Arnoarson - 2 years, 11 months ago

it misses at each 6 o'clock not at each 5 o'clock just like Michael Polson said

Mahmoud Fouad - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Try to do 6:00 on an analog clock ;)

Thep-ananh Virathavone - 2 years, 11 months ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Jun 23, 2018

The the position measure from the 12 marking in degrees of the hour hand and minute hand after time t t be θ h ( t ) \theta_h (t) and θ m ( t ) \theta_m (t) respectively. Let time t = 0 t=0 be 06:00 when the hour and minute hands are in a straight line or 18 0 180^\circ apart. Then θ h ( 0 ) = 180 \theta_h (0) = 180 and θ m ( 0 ) = 0 \theta_m (0) = 0 . Since the hour hand is moving at 3 0 30^\circ in one hour or 60 minutes, its angular speed is 1 2 \frac 12^\circ per minute, while that of the minute hand is 360 60 = 6 \frac {360}{60} = 6^\circ per minute. Then we have

{ θ h ( t ) = t 2 + 180 θ m ( t ) = 6 t \begin{cases} \theta_h(t) = \dfrac t2 + 180 \\ \theta_m (t) = 6t \end{cases}

And we need to find the number of times when θ h ( t ) θ m ( t ) m o d 360 = 180 \theta_h (t) - \theta_m (t) \bmod 360 = 180 , since the minute hand runs 12 times faster than the hour hand. Note that:

θ h ( t ) θ m ( t ) m o d 360 = 180 θ h ( t ) ( θ m ( t ) 360 n ) = 180 where n is an integer. t 2 + 180 6 t + 360 n = 180 t n = 720 n 11 in minutes = 12 n 11 in hours \begin{aligned} \theta_h(t) - \theta_m (t) \bmod 360 & = 180 \\ \theta_h(t) - (\theta_m (t) - 360n) & = 180 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{where }n \text{ is an integer.} \\ \frac t2 + 180 - 6t + 360n & = 180 \\ \implies t_n & = \frac {720n}{11} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{in minutes} \\ & = \frac {12n}{11} & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{ in hours} \end{aligned}

We note that when n = 22 n=22 , t 22 = 24 t_{22} = 24 hours. Therefore, there are 22 \boxed{22} times the hour and minute hands form a straight line.

That's a dirty damn trick question

Szin Napalm - 2 years, 11 months ago

Nice algebraic solution. One typo: in line 3 of the equation solving near the end, 360 360 should be 360 n 360n

Richard Costen - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Thanks. I have edited it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 11 months ago

I feel like the photograph is misleading. Shouldn't the hour hand be midway between 12 and 1 at 12.30?

Keertana Pillai - 2 years, 7 months ago

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But this is 06:00. The red hour-hand is shorter than the black minute-hand.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 2 years, 7 months ago

an elegant solution thank you.

Abelian Group - 2 years, 6 months ago
Zico Quintina
Jun 24, 2018

The first time after 6 : 00 6:00 that the hour and minute hand will form a 18 0 180^{\circ} angle will be shortly after 7 : 05 7:05 ; the exact time is 5 5 11 5\frac{5}{11} minutes after 7 7 o'clock, but it is not necessary to establish that. It will happen again shortly after 8 : 10 , 9 : 15 , 10 : 20 8:10, 9:15, 10:20 etc for every hour until shortly after 4 : 50 4:50 . However, there will be no such occurrence for the 5 5 o'clock hour; if there were, it would have to happen shortly after 5 : 55 5:55 , but we know the angle will be 18 0 180^{\circ} at 6 : 00 6:00 , so there would have to be two such occurrences within a space of 5 5 minutes, which is clearly impossible. So there will be 11 11 occurrences over a twelve-hour period, or 22 \boxed{22} in a 24-hour day.

Uh ... guess I am missing something ?? ....

1 00:30

2 01:35

3 02:40

4 03:45

5 04:50

6 05:55

7 06:00

8 07:05

9 08:10

10 09:15

11 10:20

12 11:25

13 12:30

14 13:35

15 14:40

16 15:45

17 16:60

18 17:55

19 18:00

20 19:05

21 20:10

22 21:15

23 22:20

24 23:25

bp kline - 2 years, 11 months ago

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Consider that while the minutes hand is running the hours one is running too, albeit slower. For example if it's 12.30 the hours hand will be exactly between the 12 and the 1, if it's 2.40 the hours hand will be two times closer to 3 than to the 2. We are considering a clock which hands run smoothly. Imagine that the minutes hand is chasing the hour's, if the latter was still the hand would meet 24 times, instead the hours hand is slowly getting away, so that the two meet only 22 times. The same applies to the 180° case.

Emanuele Terrana - 2 years, 11 months ago
Uros Stojkovic
Jun 25, 2018

The answer is twice the number of times red lines cross black horizontal line on the graph below. Thus 2 × 11 = 22 2\times 11 = \boxed{22} .

Here are the equations represented on the graph: ϕ h = 2 π 12 t ( h ) ϕ m = 2 π t ( h ) Δ ϕ = ϕ m ϕ h . \begin{aligned}&{\color{#456461} \phi_{h} = \frac{2\pi}{12}t(h)} \\ &{\color{#3D99F6} \phi_{m} = 2\pi t(h)} \\ &{\color{#D61F06} \Delta\phi = \phi_{m}-\phi_{h}}.\end{aligned}

This is unclear WHY this is the case

Leafy Li - 2 years, 6 months ago

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You'll have to be more specific. What exactly is unclear to you?

Uros Stojkovic - 2 years, 6 months ago
Lance Kuanwu
Jun 25, 2018

Just by visualizing all possible straight lines, we see that there is a straight line for after every hour besides 5pm. When you turn the minute hand after 5pm and try to form the next straight line, you see that the next straight line occurs at 6pm. The same happens again at 5am. Thus the answer is 24 -2 = 22

Nishant Munjal
Jun 30, 2018

Let 6 degrees equal to 1point. In 60 minutes, minute hand moves 60 points, whereas hour hand moves 5 points. So relative speed of 2 hands is 60-5 = 55 points. At 12AM both hands make 0 degrees, to make 180 degrees b\w them they have to move 30 points relative to each other. Hence it will take 30/55 hrs to make 180 degrees for the first time. Next time they have to travel 60 points to make 180 degrees, which will take 60/55 hrs. So we can get the following equation 30/55+(60/55)n = 24 Where n= number of time when minute hand make 180degree with the hour hand after first time. n= 21.2 Total number in a day whey both hands makes 180 degrees = 21+1 =22

Dave Grubwieser
Jun 28, 2018

Each successive event requires 65 minutes + the extra movement of the hour hand past its hour. Minutes per day 1440 / 65 = 22.something, therefore the answer has to be 22.

This aproximation method works because we know the hands align back their starting position every 24 hours and the answer must be a whole number.

Matt McNabb
Jun 28, 2018

If we go back in time about 33 minutes from each such position, we reach a position where both hands coincide.

It's easy to see that this is a bijection, so the problem is reduced to the well-known problem of how many times the hands coincide in a 12 hour period (doubled to get the result for a 24 hour period).

Which can be easily seen to be 11 (one for each hour except the last).

Dominic Bobay
Jun 25, 2018

Imagine the numbers on the clock are "unwinded" and stretched out, so that the numbers are on a straight line. We can imagine putting these numbers onto the interval x:[0,24]. Then the rate at which the hour hand moves can be modeled by the function h(x) = x, and the rate for the minute hand is m(x) = 12x. Because we are looking for when the hands form a long straight line, on the clock, this is represented by when the distance between the hands along the clock is exactly 6. Now because the clock is cyclic (it repeats the same numbers) and our graph is not, we need to evaluate the number of times the distance between the two hands is a multiple of 6, but not a multiple of 12 (because that would have the hands being in a short straight line). The distance between the hands is given by f(x) = m(x) - h(x) = 11x. Now we evaluate the number of times f(x) is a multiple of 6 but not 12, on the interval x:[0,24]. I simply evaluated this by counting, and came out with the answer, 22 .

If you're still having trouble, just count manually using this interactive clock:

https://www.visnos.com/demos/clock

It's important to note that the the hour pointer moves not only when you get into the next hour, but moves a little each second. That means that a straight line after 3 o'clock will be ~3:49 instead of 3:45, as you might have first guessed.

Diogo V. Kersting - 2 years, 11 months ago
Cal Kruse
Jul 1, 2018

Mathematically... (Base time units is minutes)

The angle of the hour hand = P I 360 \frac{PI}{360} t

The angle of the minute hand is P I 30 \frac{PI}{30} t

They are 180° apart when P I 360 \frac{PI}{360} t = P I 30 \frac{PI}{30} t + PI

Solving for t yields 360 11 \frac{360}{11}

There are 1440 minutes in a day, and 1440 / (360/11) = 22 and some change

Colin Skinner
Jun 30, 2018

Every time the minute hand sweeps out an hour (a full rotation) it makes a 180 degree angle with the hour hand at some point during that rotation. Starting from midnight, count once as the hour hand goes from 12 to 1. Count again to go from 1 to 2 and so on until you get to noon. That gives eleven times that the hour and minute hand make a 180 degree angle (contrary to what most people are saying, this does happen during the transition from 5-6, it's just that the 180 degree angle is made at the very last moments of the hour, and then the next 180 degree angle during the transition from 6-7 happens immediately after when the clock strikes 6. In other words, they happen back to back). Do this one more time to get from noon to midnight and you get another eleven times to get a total of 22 times the hands are 180 degrees apart in a 24 hour period.

Leafy Li
Jun 30, 2018

Every hour, this happens once. The one time it doesn't happen is the 5:00 and 17:00 because the time is 6:00 or 18:00 when it happens then. 24 - 2 is 22. Answer : 22 \boxed{22}

I don't know what everyone is talking about...answer is 24.. I verified it with a grandfather clock...and to those who talk about just before 6 o'clock there is no 180 degree angle at 559ish. The angle is converging to 180 and achieves it at 6 oclock. I started at 1230ish and with every revolution thru 1120ish I got a 180 degree angle or 12 of them . Another 12 hour period produced 12 more. It is 24 as surely as the sun rising in the east.

Greg Grapsas - 2 years, 11 months ago

What am i missing? The answer is clearly 24 to me: 1 - 12:30 am 2 - 1:35 am 3 - 2:40 am 4 - 3:45 am 5 - 4:50 am 6 - 5:55 am 7 - 6:00 am 8 - 7:05 am 9 - 8:10 am 10 - 9:15 am 11 - 10:20 am 12 - 11:25 am 13 - 12:30 pm 14 - 1:35 pm 15 - 2:40 pm 16 - 3:45 pm 17 - 4:50 pm 18 - 5:55 pm 19 - 6:00 pm 20 - 7:05 pm 21 - 8:10 pm 22 - 9:15 pm 23 - 10:20 pm 24 - 11:25 pm

Greg Chapman - 2 years, 11 months ago

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