Don't make mistakes! #3

There are three positive integers a a , b b and c c that satisfy:

  • a b c + a b + b c + c a = 116 , abc+ab+bc+ca=116,
  • a + b + c = 18. a+b+c=18.

Find the value of a 2 + b 2 + c 2 a^2+b^2+c^2 .


This problem is a part of <Don't make mistakes!> series .


The answer is 204.

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1 solution

Boi (보이)
Jun 20, 2017

According to the problem,

a b c + a b + b c + c a + a + b + c + 1 = 116 + 18 + 1 = 135 abc+ab+bc+ca+a+b+c+1=116+18+1=135 .

( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) = 135 (a+1)(b+1)(c+1)=135 .

Since a a , b b and c c are all positive integers, we see that neither a + 1 a+1 , b + 1 b+1 or c + 1 c+1 is equal to 1 1 .

There are two ways of splitting 135 135 into 3 3 parts. 3 × 5 × 9 3\times5\times9 and 3 × 3 × 15 3\times3\times15 .


Case 1.

If we're splitting 135 135 into 3 × 5 × 9 3\times5\times9 , a + b + c = 2 + 4 + 8 = 14 a+b+c=2+4+8=14 , which does not satisfy the condition a + b + c = 18 a+b+c=18 .


Case 2.

If we're splitting 135 135 into 3 × 3 × 15 3\times3\times15 , we can see that a + b + c = 18 a+b+c=18 . This satisfies the conditions.


From Case 1 and Case 2 , we see that a 2 + b 2 + c 2 = 2 2 + 1 4 2 + 2 2 = 204 . a^2+b^2+c^2=2^2+14^2+2^2=\boxed{204}.

The condition a b c a \neq b \neq c is not really necessary to solve the problem. In fact, I have a feeling it might confuse some people because they might misinterpret it as all the numbers being distinct. What do you think?

(Great problem and solution, btw!)

Steven Yuan - 3 years, 11 months ago

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That was the very essence of this problem! It is to make people realize that a b c a\neq b\neq c does not mean a c a\neq c . That is why I put the condition! :D

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 11 months ago

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But my issue is that people might misinterpret the condition and believe these is no solution when in fact there is one. Plus, there is only one possible solution to the problem anyway (excluding permutations), so it's not needed to solve the problem.

Steven Yuan - 3 years, 11 months ago

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@Steven Yuan THat's a good point. We can indeed remove that condition. We have ( a + 1 ) ( b + 1 ) ( c + 1 ) = 116 (a+1)(b+1)(c+1) = 116 and a + b + c = 18 a + b + c = 18 , which forces { a , b , c } = { 2 , 2 , 14 } \{ a, b, c \} = \{ 2, 2, 14 \} .

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 11 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Hmm how about making the problem be

"Find the value of 3 a 2 + b 2 c 2 3a^2+b^2-c^2 "

Then the condition a b c a\neq b\neq c is needed.

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 11 months ago

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@Boi (보이) What we're trying to do is simplify the question, so that it is easier to focus in on what makes the problem interesting, instead of having to take care of the nitty gritty details.

Your suggestion would complicate the question further, which makes it slightly distracting.

Calvin Lin Staff - 3 years, 11 months ago

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@Calvin Lin Ah okay that makes sense. I deleted a b c a\neq b\neq c !

Boi (보이) - 3 years, 11 months ago

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