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@Omkar Kulkarni I added an image to your problem. Can you check that it is correct?
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Yeah, it is. Btw could you tell me from where you make these images? I wanna do the same.
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If you just want geometric diagrams, I suggest using Geogebra.
I use a program called OmniGraffle, because I typically need more flexibility, like shading regions or having cubic splines.
OMG! We solved using the exact same method! High five!
Can anyone help me to understand this relation C H = 2 R cos C ?
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Yes! Actually you can prove it! Wait for today, I'll post in the evening... :)
You got it? Just use Sine Rule as well as basic trigonometric relations to get the answer...
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No, I still didn't get it... I've tried to use Sine Rule or Cosine Rule, but I can't find a relation with CH and cos C...
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@Ricardo Takayama – Let D be the point of intersection of A H and B C . So, C D = A C ∘ cos C = b cos C and also C H D = B . So , C H = sin B C D = sin B b cos C = 2 R cos C
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@Kishore S. Shenoy
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Thanks, Kishore S Shenoy , I get it all until that step. It is still difficult for me to see, thanks for taking the time. It looks like you are stating
sin
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My work below yields this to be true, b ~ 8.9 and sin 63.4 ~ .89 so the ratio = 10.
But how do you interject the 2R in there?
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@Ken Hodson – Interject 2 R ??
@Ken Hodson – tan A = 1 => A = 4 5 º => a = 2 R
By Sine Rule: sin B b = sin A a = sin 4 5 º 2 R = 2 R
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@Ricardo Takayama – Don't use like this. Use the Extended Sine Rule ! sin A a = sin B b = sin C c = 2 R
@Kishore S. Shenoy – Thank you very much! I've spent a lot of time trying to understand this problem. I hadn't seen that C H D = B . And now I've realized where you use the Sine Rule, in the last step.
@Ricardo Takayama – I wouldn't spend too much time on it. The solution is flawed. As is the original problem.
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@Ken Hodson – It is not flawed. The answer is correct
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@Kishore S. Shenoy – Can someone write out a detailed solution then? I'm with @Ricardo Takayama. I don't see the logic in the top solution, as too many steps are missed. Further, I've written a lengthy response where I identify almost every angle and line segment. I find that C'H^2 is indeed 10, but not CH^2.
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@Ken Hodson – Wait, I'm posting a comment.
This would probably a result of investigation as specific answer or knowledge to this question if it is indeed correct. Not a fundamental derivation, I think.
This one is frustrating. I used a lot of trig and still got it wrong. But I can't find my error. If anyone cares to look at my work, and show me where I went astray. To assist, consider points A', B' and C' which are the unnamed points where the altitudes intersect their opposite sides. A' lies on B C etc.
Since the TAN of A, or better the TAN of ∠ B A C = 1 , ∠ B A C = 4 5 .
Further, BC would = \(5\sqrt2 \ = 7.1) This is because the arc it cuts is 90 degrees, and the radius is 5. There's some undrawn triangle BCO that is a right isosceles triangle, and BC is the hypotenuse.
If TAN of \( \angle ABC = 2, \angle ABC = 63.4 \)
Then ∠ B C A = 7 1 . 6
The altitude BB' is the sin 71.56 = x/7.1 ; x= 6.7 And triangle BB'A is a right isosceles triangle so B'A is 6.7.
Without showing anymore math (it was all , I'll list out my dims.
AB = 9.5
a n g l e B A A ′ = 2 6 . 6
a n g l e H A C = 4 5 − 2 6 . 6 = 1 8 . 4
a n g l e C B H = 1 8 . 4
These two 18.4 degree angles were key and since earlier I found B'A = 6.7, for Triangle HAB'
HB' = 4.1
And since earlier I found BC = 7.1
for Triangle BB'C,
CB' = 2.2
And the answer I got CH is the hypotenuse of right triangle CB'H and is 4.65 or
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My work yields that C ′ H 2 i s 1 0 , but not C H 2 C H 2 i s 2 1 . 6 .
I think both the question, and this solution contain an error. As
@Sauvik Mondal
's work pointed out at the bottom of the page,
@Michael Ng
's answer is for C'H^2, not CH^2.
Further, the original problem can't be answered correctly, because CH^2 is not an integer.
I would rather think that C H = 2 R cos C is a specific knowledge than a general basic.
suppose O is the circumcenter.then <BOC=2<BAC.now tan<BAC=1 implies <A=45.Let extended CH cuts AB at C' and BH cuts AC at B'.Now HC'=BC'(=x) and HB'=CB'(=y).Now tan<B=2 implies (\sqrt { 2 } y+x)/x=2,or \sqrt { 2 } y=x.It's a well known fact that AH=2.OS(S is the feoot of the perpendicular from O to BC.But \sqrt { 2 }.OS=5.Using pythagoras theorem on triangle AC'H we get (x+\sqrt { 2 }.y)^2+x^2=50 we get 2.y^2=10
I'm glad you posted this. This means my answer up there isn't wrong. The top solution, that CH^2 = 10 is incorrect. C'H^2 = 10, but not CH^2.
tanA = 1, So, A = 45
tanB = 2, So, B = atan(2) = 63.434
C = 180 - (A+B) = 180-108.434 = 71.565
CH = 2R cos C
= 2 * 5 * cos(71.565)
= 10*0.3162
= 3.1622
CH^2 = 3.1622^2 = 10.
from tan(A)=1 and tan(B)=2, we know that: sin(A)=1/sqrt(2), sin(B)=2/sqrt(5), sin(C)=3/sqrt(10)
a/sin(A)=b/sin(B)=c/sin(C)=2R=10, with a, b and c the lengths of the sides of the triangle, this gives: a=5 sqrt(2), b=4 sqrt(5), c=3 sqrt(10)
Define a catresian system so that (keep in mind that the angle in A is pi/4 or 45°): A=(0, 0, 0), B=(3 sqrt(10), 0), C=(2 sqrt(10),2 sqrt(10))
orthocentre through A is given by y=x/2
orthocentre through C is given by x=2 sqrt(10)
Coördinates of H, on the intersection of these two lines, are therefore (2 sqrt(10), sqrt(10))
d(C,H)=2 sqrt(10) - sqrt(10) = sqrt(10) or CH² = 10
D and F are the feet of the altitudes of triangle ABC as shown on the sketch.
Let AB=3k where k is the scale factor. Since
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Note:- angle A=arcTan1=45, angle B=arcTan2=63.4349.
I think everybody is using own way for this question. Therefore, I should also tell how I did this.
Start from the end, let me write about the last steps first. Assign A as origin.
We shall obtain A (0, 0), B ( 3 1 0 , 0) and C (2 1 0 , 2 1 0 ). Solve by geometry:
x − 3 1 0 y − 0 = 2 1 0 − 3 1 0 2 1 0 − 0 = − 1 0 2 1 0 = -2 is the line B C.
Perpendicular line to B C from A (0, 0) crossing it should have a gradient of 2 1 for m 1 m 2 = -1.
Therefore, this line y = 2 1 x is intercepting with the line of C (2 1 0 , 2 1 0 ) to the x-axis.
At x = 2 1 0 , y = 1 0 . This is point H.
Obviously, for C H parallel to the y-axis, C H = 2 1 0 - 1 0 = 1 0 .
Therefore ( C H ) 2 = ( 1 0 ) 2 = 10.
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R e s o u r c e s :
Given that tan A = 1 and tan B = 2,
tan C = tan (180 ∘ - A - B) = - tan (A + B) = - 1 − t a n A t a n B t a n A + t a n B = 3.
s i n 2 x = 1 + t a n 2 x 2 t a n x
sin 2 A = 1 and sin A = 2 1
sin 2 B = 5 4 and sin B = 5 2
sin 2 C = 5 3 and sin C = 1 0 3
a b 1 0 3 = b c 2 1 = a c 5 2 = a h a = b h b = c h c = 5 2 (1 + 5 4 + 5 3 ) = 60
Therefore,
a = 5 2 and h a = 6 2
b = 4 5 and h b = 3 5
c = 3 1 0 and h c = 2 1 0
∠ A = 45 ∘ makes coordinates of C an ease to determine.
b = AC = 4 5
⟹ A C ′ = 2 A C = 2 1 0 ,
Therefore, C is located at ( 2 1 0 , 2 1 0 ).
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This solution takes n o special theorem as resources for answering the question.
Answer: 1 0
Since other solutions have been taken, we will use barycentric coordinates.
From the relation tan A + tan B + tan C = tan A tan B tan C we find tan C = 3 .
Thus, H = ( tan A : tan B : tan C ) = ( 1 : 2 : 3 ) = ( 6 1 , 3 1 , 2 1 )
This implies that C H ∣ C H ∣ 2 = ( 6 1 , 3 1 , − 2 1 ) = − a 2 y z − b 2 x z − c 2 x y = 6 a 2 + 1 2 b 2 − 1 8 c 2
However, will tan , we can derive sin and the side lengths easily. a b c = 2 R sin A = 5 2 = 2 R sin B = 4 5 = 2 R sin C = 3 1 0 Substituting these values, we get that C H 2 = 1 0 .
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Using trigonometry we can derive that C H = 2 R cos C so C H 2 = 4 R 2 cos 2 C . Now A + B + C = 1 8 0 ∘ so:
tan A + tan B + tan C = tan A tan B tan C
then substituting in and solving gives tan C = 3 . Therefore sec 2 C = tan 2 C + 1 = 1 0 ⟹ cos 2 C = 1 0 1 .
Therefore C H 2 = 4 × 5 2 × 1 0 1 = 1 0 .