In 1838, Samuel Birley Rowbotham conducted observations leading him to conclude the earth was flat. His idea was the following: If light goes straight and I'm standing at A with my friend, there must be a point B where I can't see him.
Assuming light does not bend because of atmospheric refraction , which of these is closest to the minimum arc length of A B ⌢ that would prevent Samuel from seeing his friend? Assume they are both 1 . 8 meters tall and the radius of the earth is 6 , 3 7 1 , 0 0 9 m .
Note: Though the earth is (of course) not flat, Samuel was able to see his friend at a farther distance than he was supposed to. This is due to atmospheric refraction, i.e. the non-homogeneous density of air creating a slight deviation of light. Without knowing this effect, a newspaper editor performed in 1896 the same experiment and concluded the earth was concavely curved.
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Since P is 2 π r you can cancel the 2 π and just multiply r by θ .
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or just use the fact that you're already in radians to say that arc length = radius * angle
How did you find A'D?? Can you explain the formula used there ?
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pythagorean theorem
Pythagorean theorem states that A ′ C 2 = D C 2 + A ′ D 2 , thus A ′ D = A ′ C 2 − D C 2
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Thanks for the help. But I wanted to know how A'D^2 = (2 r 1.8) + (1.8^2). This don't seem like Pythagorean theorem
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@Rohit Kumar – That's because A ′ C 2 = r 2 + 2 r 1 . 8 + 1 . 8 2 while D C = r 2 . The quadratic term r 2 is removed by the substraction
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@Steven De Oliveira – Thank you sir. Understood 😀
To expand on the other comments, note that the tangent is perpendicular to the radius, which is why pythagoras helps.
Use Pythagoras theorem there
Woops. I just realised I did sine instead of cosine... That was dumb of me.
Can't we take the angle in degrees??
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Yes you can, but cosinus takes as input an angle in radians.
Great picture and approximation. Thanks! I believe though, you got a little sloppy in the last two lines: The number you give as theta seems to be only half theta. In addition, if I use PocketCAS to do the exact calculation and do not round the angle, the result is 9578m as in your approximation. If I take the digits from PocketCAS’ internal memory and type them in again, I get the same result as you. I believe that 9578m is the better (correct?) answer.
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You are right :) It is amazing how using a slack approximation of the angle can break all the reasoning compared to assuming that the earth is flat for the Pythagorean approximation. Try removing the last digit of cos(theta/2) and do the calculation, you will be surprised !
c o s − 1 ( 6 3 7 1 0 1 0 . 8 6 3 7 1 0 0 9 ) ∗ 6 3 7 1 0 0 9 ∗ 2 = 9 5 7 8 . 2 3
Hmmm, can you explain how you formulate this equation?
That's very nice, I performed many rounding errors in my calculation by separating each step. They were so big that the "pythagorean approximation" was more precise !
I agree with your answer Pratik Sapre - I tried to keep rounding to an absolute minimum and ended up with 9,578.238!
Let the angle of center of the circle opened to the two people is 2 θ , we can obtained
cos θ = R + 1 . 8 R
Because the angle is almost zero, we can use approximate method, namely Taylor Series
R + 1 . 8 R ≈ 1 − 2 θ 2 + s m a l l t e r m s
θ ≈ R + 1 . 8 3 . 6
So the arc A B can be calculated by formula L = 2 R θ ≈ 2 R R + 1 . 8 3 . 6
Put in the value of R = 6 3 7 1 0 0 9 to obtain the answer L ≈ 9 5 7 8 . 2 3 1 ≈ 9 5 0 0
of course the earth is flat... you should have listened to kent hovind
Beware the missing . in the square root of the final answer ( R + 1.8 ) :-)
Simply apply Pythagoras' Theorem, A B = 2 ( 6 3 7 5 0 0 9 + 1 . 8 ) 2 − 6 3 7 5 0 0 9 2 ≈ 9 5 7 8 . 2 3 2 0 2 2 3 9 m
This is A'B', not AB
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But,here we need approximate value but not exact.This is quite simple solution!!!
I agree, Pythagoras is much simpler, however, I arrived at 9,444.265 by making allowance for their eyes not being right at the top of their heads. i.e. I used height of 1.75m as an average between top of head and position of eyes.
For those of you approximating cos, I would suggest using sin instead. Since sinx/x converges to 1 very rapidly, you can use x in place of sinx for small x and retain a great deal of accuracy.
The maximum distance that would prevent them from seeing themselves is tangential to the earth surface. So, the angle subtended by arc AB at the center of the earth is 2 times of arccos 6371009/(6371009+1.8) which equals to 0.0861 degrees. So, the length of arc AB is 2 3.1416 6371009*0.0861/360 which equals to 9573.89 metres. So, the correct answer is about 9500 metres.
EZ pathagoras problem don't know why this is on intermediate
Because Pythagoras gives the length of A'B', not AB
Since the earth radius is so large, arc length ≈ 2 × ( R + 1 . 8 ) 2 − R 2 = 9 5 7 8 . 2 2 5 m .
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To find precisely the distance, a possibility is to calculate the angle θ = A C B , which verifies :
cos ( 2 θ ) = r + 1 . 8 r = 0 . 9 9 9 9 9 9 7 1 7 , thus θ = 0 . 0 0 0 7 5 2 3 2 9 7 3 3 r a d . The perimeter P of the Earth is 2 π r , thus A B = 2 π P . θ = 9 5 8 6 .