Two identical Inductor

A circuit has two identical inductors, two identical voltmeters A A and B B and a source of alternating voltage v ( t ) = V 0 sin ( 2 π f t ) v(t) =V_{0} \sin (2\pi ft) .

The voltmeters offer only resistances in the circuit. If the frequency of the voltage source is changed over a wide range, and the maximum reading the voltmeter B B shows is α V 0 \alpha V_{0} , find α \alpha .

Hint: Use phasor diagram.


The answer is 0.333.

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2 solutions

Chew-Seong Cheong
Sep 28, 2020

Let the resistance of the voltmeters be R R , the inductance of the inductors be L L , and 2 π f = ω 2\pi f = \omega . Then the reading on voltmeter B B is:

V B = j ω R L R + j ω L R + j ω L + j ω R L R + j ω L = j ω R L ( R + j ω L ) 2 + j ω R L = j ω R L R 2 ω 2 L 2 + 3 j ω R L = 1 3 + j ω 2 L 2 R 2 ω R L \begin{aligned} V_B & = \frac {\frac {j\omega RL}{R+j\omega L}}{R+j\omega L + \frac {j\omega RL}{R+j\omega L}} = \frac {j\omega RL}{(R+j\omega L)^2 + j\omega RL} = \frac {j\omega RL}{R^2 - \omega^2 L^2 + 3j\omega RL} = \frac 1{3+j\frac {\omega^2L^2 - R^2}{\omega RL}} \end{aligned}

V B = 1 3 + j ω 2 L 2 R 2 ω R L = 1 3 2 + ( ω 2 L 2 R 2 ω R L ) 2 = 1 ω 2 L 2 R 2 + 7 + R 2 ω 2 L 2 By AM-GM inequality: ω 2 L 2 R 2 + R 2 ω 2 L 2 2 1 2 + 7 = 1 3 0.333 Equality occurs when R = ω L \begin{aligned} \implies |V_B| & = \frac 1{\left|3+j\frac {\omega^2L^2 - R^2}{\omega RL}\right|} \\ & = \frac 1{\sqrt{3^2 + \left(\frac {\omega^2L^2 - R^2}{\omega RL}\right)^2}} \\ & = \frac 1{\sqrt{\blue{\frac {\omega^2L^2}{R^2}}+7+\blue{\frac {R^2}{\omega^2L^2}}}} & \small \blue{\text{By AM-GM inequality: }\frac {\omega^2L^2}{R^2}+\frac {R^2}{\omega^2L^2} \ge 2} \\ & \le \frac 1{\sqrt {\blue 2+7}} = \frac 13 \approx \boxed{0.333} & \small \blue{\text{Equality occurs when }R=\omega L} \end{aligned}


Reference: AM-GM inequality

@Chew-Seong Cheong I surprised you used AM-GM. It is really a useful tool.
By the way, how you write that blue line besides your solution for explaining something?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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Hope the following helps. By the way, I have changed the last part of your problem question. Because it did not ask to submit α \alpha as answer.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Thank you so much for sharing

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@Lil Doug , I have changed the figure for you. I used Paint to do it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Thanks this figure is really cool.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago
Steven Chase
Sep 26, 2020

Let the resistance of the voltmeter be 1 1 . The choice of resistance value does not affect the max value of V B V_B , even though it does affect the value of inductive reactance at which it occurs.

Define the series and parallel R L RL impedances as follows:

Z S = 1 + j X Z P = j X 1 + j X Z_S = 1 + jX \\ Z_P = \frac{j X}{1 + j X}

Then the voltage across voltmeter B B is:

V B = V 0 Z P Z S + Z P = V 0 j X ( 1 + j X ) 2 + j X V_B = V_0 \frac{Z_P}{Z_S + Z_P} = V_0 \frac{j X}{(1 + jX)^2 + jX}

The magnitude of this quantity is:

V B = V 0 X 1 + 7 X 2 + X 4 |V_B| = V_0 \frac{X}{\sqrt{1 + 7X^2 + X^4}}

Differentiate the above expression with respect to X X and set it to zero to find the max value. The maximum value of V B V_B is 1 3 V 0 \frac{1}{3} V_0 when X = 1 X = 1 .

@Steven Chase what is the meaning of S and P?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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Z S Z_S is the impedance of the series RL branch, and Z P Z_P is the impedance of the parallel RL branch

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@Steven Chase can I interchange the values of Z S Z_{S} and Z P Z_{P} ?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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I would not make that assumption

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Steven Chase W H Y ? \Huge WHY?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley There is no reason to think that they should be the same

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase ok noted. Why the resistance of inductor is imaginary only?

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley Because the current and voltage for an inductor are 90 degrees out of phase with each other. This corresponds to an impedance of the form Z = j X Z = j X

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Steven Chase @Steven Chase I didn't understand this sentence physically

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley You can refer to this note

https://brilliant.org/discussions/thread/lc-impedance-conventions/?ref_id=1601272

Steven Chase - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

@Steven Chase Hello. Please help me in this problem Thanks in advance. Hope I am not disturbing you.

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 2 weeks ago

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Hello. If you know how to multiply matrices, this one is straightforward, but tedious. Perhaps there is some fancy way of finding the answer without doing the multiplications, but I don't know what it is.

Steven Chase - 8 months, 1 week ago

Nice solution.

Matthew Feig - 8 months, 1 week ago

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Agreed, thanks for pointing that out. I have amended the solution. The analytical derivation was actually just an afterthought, because people like to see such derivations. I initially solved the problem by writing code and doing a numerical sweep. The code solution doesn't require explicit derivation of that expression.

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import math

V0 = 1.0
R = 1.0

dX = 10.0**(-5.0)

X_store = 0.0
Vmax = 0.0

X = dX

##############################################

while X <= 10.0:

    Z = complex(0.0,X)

    ZS = R + Z
    ZP = R*Z/(R+Z)

    V = V0*ZP/(ZS+ZP)

    Vmag = abs(V)

    if Vmag > Vmax:
        Vmax = Vmag
        X_store = X

    X = X + dX

##############################################

print dX
print X_store
print Vmax

#>>> 
#1e-05
#0.999999999998
#0.333333333333
#>>> 

Steven Chase - 8 months, 1 week ago

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