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In the arrangement shown in the figure, the ends P P & Q Q of an inextensible spring move downwards with a uniform speed u u . Pulleys A A & B B are fixed. The mass m m moves upwards with a speed of


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This problem is quite famous. It appeared in IIT-JEE 1982, NSEP 2003 & is also present in the exercises of a good physics book.

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2 u / cos θ 2u/\cos \theta 2 u cos θ 2u \cos \theta u cos θ u\cos \theta None of These u / cos θ u/\cos \theta

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1 solution

Ameya Salankar
Feb 8, 2015

Referring to the figure, at an instant of time, l 2 = a 2 + b 2 l^2=a^2+b^2 .

b b is unchanged with time. So, we get

2 l d l d t = 2 a d a d t \Rightarrow 2l \frac{\mathrm d l}{\mathrm d t} = 2a \frac{\mathrm d a}{\mathrm d t}

But, d l d t = u \frac{\mathrm d l}{\mathrm d t} = u and a l = cos θ \frac{a}{l} = \cos \theta .

And if the upward speed of the moving block is taken as d a d t = v \frac{\mathrm d a}{\mathrm d t} = v ,

v = l a d l d t v= \frac{l}{a} \frac{\mathrm d l}{\mathrm d t}

v = u cos θ \Rightarrow v = \frac{u}{\cos \theta}

@Ameya Salankar You took it from DC pandey. Right?

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years, 4 months ago

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it is in hc verma too

Ashu Gupta - 6 years, 4 months ago

No! I don't use DC Pandey. I refer H C Verma and Halliday-Resnick. And that's pretty impressive age to study DC Pandey!

Ameya Salankar - 6 years, 4 months ago

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I have finished DC Pandey . :)

Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Rajdeep Dhingra really amazing !!

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@Rajdeep Dhingra Are you really 13 years old. I am asking this because I am highly impressed by your knowledge. :)

satvik pandey - 6 years, 4 months ago

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Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years, 4 months ago

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@Rajdeep Dhingra No I haven't tried that because I don't have much knowledge and interest in Number theory.

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Rajdeep Dhingra - 6 years, 4 months ago

Is there any other solution

Apoorv Jha - 6 years, 3 months ago

I did this question by taking the component of v along the vertical direction assuming that the block moves with a velocity equal to the vertical velocity of rope. That way the answer is ucos theta. Could you please tell what is wrong in this approach?

Siddharth Gupta - 2 years, 1 month ago

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