Vectors basics

  • What is the angle(in degrees) between two unit vectors whose resultant is also a unit vector?

  • How many minimum number of vectors of non-equal magnitude are needed to have a resultant sum of 0 0 ?

Enter the sum of the above two answers.


The answer is 123.

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3 solutions

Part 1 \text{Part 1}

The resultant of two vectors A A and B B with angle θ \theta between them is given by:

R = A 2 + B 2 + 2 A B cos θ Given A = 1 , B = 1 , R = 1 1 = 1 + 1 + 2 cos θ Squaring both sides, 1 = 1 + 1 + 2 cos θ cos θ = 1 2 θ = 12 0 \begin{aligned} |R| &= \sqrt{A^2+B^2+2AB \cos \theta} \\ \text{Given } &\rightarrow A=1, B=1,R=1 \\ \implies 1 &= \sqrt{1+1+2\cos \theta} \\ \text{Squaring both sides, } 1&= 1+1+2\cos \theta \\ \implies \cos \theta &= -\dfrac{1}{2}\\ \implies \theta &= \boxed{120^{\circ} }\\ \end{aligned}

Part 2 \text{Part 2}

Two vectors of equal magnitude, but opposite directions, sum to 0 0 . But since, we are not allowed to have vectors of equal magnitude, we need at least 3 \boxed{3} vectors. The three vectors forming a closed triangle, by the Triangle Law of Vector Addition, will have a sum of 0 0 .

Answer \text{Answer}

120 + 3 = 123 \boxed{120+3=123}

@Vinayak Srivastava Upvotes have been awarded

Toughest problem of my whole life.

Talulah Riley - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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I never posted one of your level, and won't probably for some years, your level is way beyond my reach. I see that you have solved problems which I don't understand a word, but please don't mock me if my problem is correct, even though easy. Please don't take me in wrong sense, and if this comment is bad, I am extremely sorry.

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Don't be upset, you are doing great for your age, I know that. Keep it up. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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@Aryan Sanghi Thank you for your kind words!

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

@Aryan Sanghi @Aryan Sanghi, why did you delete your solution? because I forgot to comment it was good? :)

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 1 week ago

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@Vinayak Srivastava There are already good solutions, that's why. :)

Aryan Sanghi - 9 months, 1 week ago

Yeah bro, you are doing well for your age (well I'm 14 too; I'm an exception because my problems are fucking monstrous). Keep it going :)

Krishna Karthik - 9 months, 1 week ago

@Vinayak Srivastava

He's just kidding bro. Don't take Dougy seriously (although he was way more advanced at your age). You are doing well; keep it up. Half the people in my school at 14 won't even understand Calculus or vector algebra lol.

Krishna Karthik - 9 months, 1 week ago

I've clicked on "brilliant" upvote because you started learning vectors at this age. As the problem title indicates, this problem uses the basics of vector algebra. So there is nothing wrong in it. Carry on. May you prosper in life. You can try this problem. I think it is within your reach.

A Former Brilliant Member - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

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Thanks for your wishes! I have posted a solution to the problem, please see. :)

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Keep up the good work! Don’t worry about ignorant children like mention[10587613:Lil Doug]. He’ll pay the piper for his extremely poor attitude and character someday.

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Eric Roberts It's ok; he's just a cocky 17 year old. Don't go too hard on him lol. Btw Vinayak Srivastava is doing well for his age.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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17 is nearly adult.... I imagine this Doug must have been bullied by his peers, and now he is reflecting that animosity toward others. He’s probably gifted,but with that attitude he’s on the fast track to becoming a villain, not a super hero as he perceives himself to be...

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Eric Roberts @Eric Roberts Hello.
I just said “Toughest problem of my whole life.”.Nothing else.
Vinayak is my friend, I always like joking with my friends.
I don't know why are you taking so seriously.
I have also helped him clearing his doubts on some questions.
Like see @Krishna Karthik he is my best friend. I always do sarcastic things with him and have helped him in lot of problems.
So last thing which I want to say “I am just kidding him, don't take everything seriously“


Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley I've seen you do it on his other problems...Its an insult under the guise of playfulness and sarcasm. You have an ego that will make you a lonely miserable person in this life... I pity him if he considers you a "friend". The good news is your young... there is probably time for you to change.

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Eric Roberts @Eric Roberts in my school I have helped many students in physics,i didn't have an ego.
I thought that my comment is funny .
But after seeing your reaction, I feel that , Vinayak has really felt bad , even though I am kidding .
i will say sorry to him. I will definitely change my this behavior.
By the way, Can you suggest me some tips how should I make a change in my behavior??

Talulah Riley - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Talulah Riley Some ego is a good thing. It naturally grows when you are "helping" people ( examine your motives ). A good way to move forward is when you have the thoughts of being more advanced than others don't act on them...keep them to yourself.

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

@Eric Roberts Why are you taking what a cocky 17 year old says so seriously? Vinayak knows Doug. He's just kidding. Doug knows that Vinayak is a smart guy and stuff. Look: Doug may appear to be an asshole sometimes, but we all knows he's kidding and respects his peers.

Btw, Doug has helped Vinayak countless times, as I have seen.

Krishna Karthik - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

Something I missed: The resultant must be the third leg in an equilateral vector triangle whose interior angles are 60 deg. Thus the angle between the constituent vectors is 120 deg. The mathematical definition for the resultant isn't a necessary step after all.

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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Yes sir, that was exactly the solution I posted (but then deleted as other good solutions were already present). :)

Aryan Sanghi - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

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You should have kept it in my opinion. Its intuitive and beneficial to think about how the vector addition is represented!

Eric Roberts - 8 months, 3 weeks ago

(i) Let us consider three vectors a , b , c \vec a, \vec b, \vec c of equal magnitude : a = b = c = m |\vec a|=|\vec b|=|\vec c |=m , such that c = a + b \vec c =\vec a+\vec b

Then, c = a + b |\vec c |=|\vec a +\vec b|

m = m 2 + m 2 + 2 m 2 cos α = 2 m cos ( α 2 ) \implies m=\sqrt {m^2+m^2+2m^2\cos α}=2m\cos (\frac{α}{2}) ,

where α α is the angle between a \vec a and b \vec b

cos ( α 2 ) = 1 2 α = 120 ° \implies \cos (\frac{α}{2})=\frac 12\implies α=120\degree

This holds true for any three vectors of equal magnitude. Since unit vectors have the same magnitude 1 1 , this holds for them as well.

(ii) Since a b a + b a + b ||\vec a |-|\vec b ||\leq |\vec a +\vec b |\leq |\vec a |+|\vec b | ,

therefore two vectors of unequal magnitudes can never give a zero sum

Using vector addition algorithm, we get that sum of a number of vectors is zero if they can be represented by the sides of a polygon taken in order. Since a polygon of non-zero area has a minimum of three sides, the minimum number of such vectors is 3 3

Hence the answer is 120 + 3 = 123 120+3=\boxed {123} .

@Vinayak Srivastava go to https://brilliant.org/discussions/thread/testing-19/ if u want to test any latex stuff

NSCS 747 - 9 months, 1 week ago
Krishna Karthik
Sep 1, 2020

Here @Vinayak Srivastava

Try this problem, I think it's within your reach for sure:

https://brilliant.org/problems/the-classic-rope-on-table-problem-with-a-twist/?ref_id=1600873

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