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Algebra Level 2

The cubic equation x 3 + p x 2 + q = 0 x^3+px^2+q=0 , where q 0 q\neq0 has two equal roots. Find the value of 4 p 3 + 27 q . 4p^3+27q.


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4 solutions

Similar solution as @Aaryan Maheshwari's

Let the three roots of the cubic equation be α \alpha , α \alpha , and β \beta . Then by Vieta's formula :

{ 2 α + β = p . . . ( 1 ) α 2 + 2 α β = 0 . . . ( 2 ) α 2 β = q . . . ( 3 ) \begin{cases} 2\alpha + \beta = -p & ...(1) \\ \alpha^2 + 2\alpha \beta = 0 & ...(2) \\ \alpha^2 \beta = -q & ...(3) \end{cases}

From 2 α × ( 1 ) ( 2 ) 2 \alpha \times (1) - (2) : 3 α 2 = 2 α p α = 2 3 p . . . ( 2 a ) \implies 3 \alpha^2 = - 2\alpha p \implies \alpha = - \dfrac 23 p \quad ...(2a)

From 27 2 α × ( 2 ) - \dfrac {27}2 \alpha \times (2) :

27 2 α 3 27 α 2 β = 0 Note that ( 2 a ) : α = 2 3 p 27 2 ( 8 27 p 3 ) + 27 q = 0 and ( 3 ) : α 2 β = q 4 p 3 + 27 q = 0 \begin{aligned} - \frac {27}2 {\color{#3D99F6} \alpha^3} - 27 \color{#D61F06} \alpha^2 \beta & = 0 & \small \color{#3D99F6} \text{Note that }(2a): \ \alpha = - \frac 23 p \\ - \frac {27}2 \left({\color{#3D99F6} - \frac 8{27}p^3}\right) + 27 \color{#D61F06} q & = 0 & \small \color{#D61F06} \text{and }(3): \ \alpha^2 \beta = - q \\ 4p^3 + 27 q & = \boxed 0 \end{aligned}

Nice solution! Sir, by some hit and trial I found the equation: x 3 + 3 x 2 4 x^3+3x^2-4 , as I was bored to do Vieta. Are there more equations like this? Thanks!

Also, I think there is a typo: it should be 2 α p -2 \alpha p , instead of 2 α -2 \alpha

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 3 weeks ago

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Vinayak, thanks, I have changed it.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 9 months, 3 weeks ago

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It looks good! I think there aren't more equations, this is the only one. What do you think Sir?

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Vinayak Srivastava You mean other values of p p and q q ? No there aren't.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 9 months, 3 weeks ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong Ok, thank you for replying!

Vinayak Srivastava - 9 months, 3 weeks ago

Let the roots of the equation be a, a, b. Then a(a+2b)=0. Since a can not be zero (because q is not zero), therefore a=-2b. 2a+b=-p and (a^2)b=-q. These imply 4(p^3)+27q=0

Pratham Shah
May 9, 2019

let the common root be 'a'

differentiating f(x)=x^3+px^2+q=0

f'(x)=3x^2+2px=0

roots of f'(x) are 0 and -2/3p

one of this roots will be normal point of inflection and other will be common root

as 0 cannot be a root hence a=-2/3p

as a is root of f(x) hence f(a)=0

8 p 3 27 \frac{-8p^3}{27} + 4 p 3 9 \frac{4p^3}{9} +q=0

( 12 8 ) p 3 27 \frac{(12-8)p^3}{27} +q=0

4p^3+27q=0

K T
May 9, 2019

setting x 3 + p x 2 + q = ( x a ) ( x b ) 2 x^3+px^2+q=(x-a)(x-b)^2 leads to

x 3 + p x 2 + q = x 3 ( 2 b + a ) x 2 + ( b 2 + 2 a b ) x a b 2 x^3+px^2+q=x^3-(2b+a)x^2+(b^2 +2ab)x-ab^2

so that, by comparing the coefficient for each power of x:

p = ( 2 b + a ) p=-(2b+a) , 0 = b 2 + 2 a b 0=b^2 +2ab , and q = a b 2 q=-ab^2 .

substituting b = 2 a b=-2a gives

p = 3 a , q = 4 a 3 p=3a, q=-4a^3 so that we can calculate 4 p 3 + 27 q = 108 a 3 108 a 3 = 0 4p^3+27q=108a^3-108a^3=\boxed{0}

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