Vieta's Derivative II -- My 500-follower problem

Calculus Level 4

The function x 5 + 6 x 4 18 x 3 10 x 2 + 45 x 24 x^5 + 6x^4 - 18x^3 -10x^2 + 45x -24 has only four distinct real roots: α \alpha , β \beta , γ \gamma and δ \delta (in no particular order). If f ( x ) f'(x) is the first derivative of f ( x ) f(x) . Evaluate

f ( α ) + f ( β ) + f ( γ ) + f ( δ ) f'(\alpha) + f'(\beta) + f'(\gamma) + f'(\delta)

Inspiration: This is exactly the problem titled Inspired by Vieta's Derivatives with a twist.


The answer is 4797.000.

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2 solutions

Pi Han Goh
Apr 9, 2015

By Rational Root Theorem and the suggestion of the description, by perform long division twice, we can see that x = 1 x = 1 is double root of the equation. Therefore leaving the cubic polynomial ( x 3 + 8 x 2 3 x 24 ) (x^3 + 8x^2 - 3x - 24) .

A few tedious trial and error for factors of ± 24 \pm 24 gives x = 8 x=-8 as another root for the cubic polynomial. So the equation factors completely to ( x 1 ) 2 ( x + 8 ) ( x 2 3 ) (x-1)^2 (x+8)(x^2-3) . Thus the value of the expression in question is simply f ( 1 ) + f ( 8 ) + f ( 3 ) + f ( 3 ) f'(1) + f'(-8) + f'\left (\sqrt 3\right ) + f'\left(-\sqrt 3 \right) .

With f ( x ) = 5 x 4 + 24 x 3 54 x 2 20 x + 45 f'(x) = 5x^4 + 24x^3 - 54x^2 - 20x + 45 , we can easily obtain f ( 1 ) = 0 f'(1) = 0 and with enough patience, we get f ( 8 ) = 4941 f'(-8) = 4941

And f ( x ) + f ( x ) = 2 ( 5 x 4 54 x 2 + 45 ) f'(x) + f'(-x) = 2(5x^4 - 54x^2 + 45) , with x = 3 x = \sqrt 3 , we have f ( 3 ) + f ( 3 ) = 2 ( 5 3 2 54 3 + 45 ) = 144 f'\left(\sqrt 3 \right) + f'\left(-\sqrt 3 \right) = 2(5 \cdot 3^2 - 54 \cdot 3 + 45) = -144

The answer is 0 + 4941 144 = 4797 0 + 4941 - 144 = \boxed{4797}

Thanks for the answer. It helps if you plot a graph. We can do it quite fast using a spreadsheet.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 2 months ago

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My favorite part of the problem is the clause "with a twist": it is quite literally a twist, as the × \times sign has been rotated 4 5 . 45^\circ.

Caleb Townsend - 6 years, 2 months ago

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Wow. That really is a "twist" :))

Jeffrey Robles - 6 years, 2 months ago

Thanks! I only use them as a last resort or if I'm feeling lazy.

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 2 months ago

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I understand. You like to exercise your brain first. But for me I make quite a bit or careless mistakes, therefore, need to use a surer way.

Chew-Seong Cheong - 6 years, 2 months ago

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@Chew-Seong Cheong To each his own! Big fan of your answers!

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 2 months ago

is there any easy way to do it ....?

Aman Gautam - 6 years, 2 months ago

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I doubt there is one. One slightly simpler way to factor out ( x 2 3 ) (x^2-3) after ( x 1 ) 2 (x-1)^2 has been factored out is to consider the equation x 3 3 x = 8 x 2 24 x ( x 2 3 ) = 8 ( x 2 3 ) x^3 - 3x = 8x^2 - 24 \Rightarrow x(x^2 - 3) = -8(x^2 - 3) . But this only simplify the overall working by a little.

Pi Han Goh - 6 years, 2 months ago

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i did the same and got wrong due to calculation mistakes!!
these type of question gets us tired and tedious ....!! but still a good question indeed!

Aman Gautam - 6 years, 2 months ago

good question but far too tedious.............

Rishabh Mishra - 6 years, 1 month ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Apr 11, 2015

This is in response to Aman Gautam 's comments. I hope this is helpful.

I find it easy to solved it using an Excel spreadsheet. Which I am going to show here.

First we can plot the graph of f ( x ) = x 5 + 6 x 4 18 x 3 10 x 2 + 45 x 24 f(x) = x^5+6x^4-18x^3-10x^2+45x-24 . From the calculated data, we see that there are four real roots 8 , ( 1.75 , 1.5 ) , 1 , ( 1.75 , 1.5 ) -8, (-1.75,-1.5), 1, (1.75,1.5) .

By changing the starting x x value (Cell A1) and the graph scaling (Cell C1), we can zoom in around x = 1 x=1 we see that x = 1 x=1 is the double root (see below). We can confirm this by putting values in f ( x ) = 5 x 4 + 24 x 3 54 x 2 20 x + 45 f'(x) = 5x^4+24x^3-54x^2-20x+45 . (Notice the formula in Cell B1.)

Then we can use spreadsheet to do long division by the known factors x 1 , x 1 , x 8 x-1, x-1, x-8 , as follows:

Row 1 is the coefficients of f ( x ) f(x) . Column A is the factors. Row 3 is the quotient of f ( x ) x 1 f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) ( x 4 + 7 x 3 11 x 2 21 x + 24 ) \dfrac {f(x)}{x-1}\quad \Rightarrow f(x) = (x-1)(x^4+7x^3-11x^2-21x+24) .

Similarly, Row 5: f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) 2 ( x 3 + 8 x 2 3 x 24 ) \quad \Rightarrow f(x) = (x-1)^2(x^3+8x^2-3x-24)

And, Row 7: f ( x ) = ( x 1 ) 2 ( x + 8 ) ( x 2 3 ) \quad \Rightarrow f(x) = (x-1)^2(x+8)(x^2-3)

Therefore, the remaining two roots are ± 3 \pm \sqrt{3}

Of course, we can use the speadsheet to calculate the value of f ( α ) + f ( β ) + f ( γ ) + f ( δ ) f'(\alpha) + f'(\beta) + f'(\gamma) + f'(\delta) .

just Brilliant!

Aman Gautam - 6 years, 2 months ago

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