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{ a + b + c + d = 12 a b + a c + a d + b c + b d + c d = 46 a b c + a b d + a c d + b c d = 60 \begin{cases} a + b + c + d &= 12\\ ab + ac + ad + bc + bd + cd &= 46\\ abc + abd + acd + bcd &= 60 \end{cases} Given that a < b < c < d a<b<c< d , what is the supremum of the product a b c d ? abcd?

Bonus: What about the infimum?

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The answer is 25.

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Mark Hennings
Jan 29, 2021

Now a , b , c , d a,b,c,d are the four distinct real roots of the quartic f ( x ) = x 4 12 x 3 + 46 x 2 60 x + u f(x) \; =\; x^4 - 12x^3 + 46x^2 - 60x + u where u = a b c d u = abcd , and we note that f ( x ) = 4 x 3 36 x 2 + 92 x 60 = 4 ( x 3 9 x 2 + 23 x 15 ) = 4 ( x 1 ) ( x 3 ) ( x 5 ) f'(x) \; = \; 4x^3 - 36x^2 + 92x - 60 \; = \; 4(x^3 - 9x^2 + 23x - 15) \; = \; 4(x-1)(x-3)(x-5) Thus we must have f ( 1 ) = f ( 5 ) = u 25 < 0 < u 9 = f ( 3 ) f(1) = f(5) = u - 25 < 0 < u - 9 = f(3) if there are to be four real roots. Thus we deduce that 9 < u < 25 9 < u < 25 . so the supremum of u = a b c d u=abcd is 25 \boxed{25} , while the infimum is 9 9 .

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Pi Han Goh - 4 months, 2 weeks ago

f(1)=f(5)=u−25<0<u−9=f(3) how did you do that?

Nazmul Hasan Shipon - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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Given that f ( x ) = x 4 12 x 3 + 46 x 2 60 x + u f(x) = x^4 - 12x^3 + 46x^2 - 60x + u , then f ( 1 ) = u 25 , f ( 5 ) = u 25 , f ( 3 ) = u 9 f(1) = u - 25, f(5) = u - 25, f(3) = u-9 .

Pi Han Goh - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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how did you get that relationship u−25<0<u−9 ?

Nazmul Hasan Shipon - 1 month, 2 weeks ago

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@Nazmul Hasan Shipon A quartic with leading coefficient 1 1 and three turning points at 1 , 3 , 5 1,3,5 is going to have a graph looking like a smooth W. To have four real roots, this W has to cross the x x -axis four times, and so the left and right minima of the W must be below the x x -axis and the central maximum must be above the x x -axis. Thus we need f ( 1 ) , f ( 5 ) < 0 < f ( 3 ) f(1),f(5) < 0 < f(3) .

Mark Hennings - 1 month, 2 weeks ago
Chris Lewis
Jan 29, 2021

Verily, Vieta vanquishes: ( a , b , c , d ) (a,b,c,d) are the roots of x 4 12 x 3 + 46 x 2 60 x + P = 0 x^4-12x^3+46x^2-60x+P=0

where P = a b c d P=abcd . This needs to have four real roots; the range of P P over which this is possible is the range we're after. One option is to use the discriminant of the quartic.

Alternatively, put u = x 3 u=x-3 , so that the equation becomes u 4 8 u 2 9 + P = 0 u^4-8u^2-9+P=0

We can treat this as a quadratic in u 2 u^2 ; solving gives u 2 = 4 ± 25 P u^2=4\pm\sqrt{25-P}

For this to have four distinct real roots, we need P < 25 P<25 and 4 25 P > 0 4-\sqrt{25-P}>0

which works out to 9 < P 9<P . Hence the infimum of P P is 9 9 and the supremum is 25 \boxed{25} .

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