Warm up problem 8: parallelogram, not enough info?

Geometry Level 2

The lengths of the altitudes from a vertex of the parallelogram to the other two sides are 10 and 12.

If the parallelogram has a perimeter of 176, find the area.

Note: The figure is not drawn to scale.

360 480 420 240

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25 solutions

Michael Mendrin
Sep 25, 2014

Let a a be the top and bottom parallel sides, and b b be the left and right parallel sides. Then we know that

2 ( a + b ) = 176 2(a+b)=176
10 a = 12 b 10a=12b .

A little algebra gets us a = 48 a=48 , so that the area is 480 480 square units. \square

Edit: Here's the actual parallelogram, drawn to accurate scale

Funny Parallelogram Funny Parallelogram

where 10 10 and 12 12 represent the distances between the 2 2 pairs of parallel lines.

How do you get that second equation?

Joeie Christian Santana - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Wknt Area=Base ×height. When a is base, 10 is height. When b is base, 12 is height. As for thd same parellelogram, area is same. Hence 10a=12b

Rohit Rai - 6 years, 8 months ago

That's the area computed in 2 different ways.

Michael Mendrin - 6 years, 8 months ago

x+y=88, 1/2X2y=1/2X2x.x=40 , area = 480

Asha Gupta - 6 years, 8 months ago

Diagram is wrong isn't it?

Krishna Sharma - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Can you explain what is wrong about it?

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 8 months ago

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The diagonal whose length is 12 should cut the side perpendicularly outside ||gm by extending the side

Krishna Sharma - 6 years, 8 months ago

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@Krishna Sharma Come to realize it. That's probably true. I'll add that in the description.

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 8 months ago

there's nothing wrong in the diagram...it's all right

Kislay Raj - 6 years, 8 months ago

Thank you for this superb question!! I struggled to get an answer. Anyway it was nice. Thank u!!

Anagha Nair - 6 years, 8 months ago

nice solution!

A Former Brilliant Member - 3 years, 12 months ago

Can someone show me what is incorrect with the following method:

If a= the length of either the top and bottom side. If b= the length of either the left or right hand side edge.

Area=10a.

Hence 10a= 240,420,360,480

a=24,42,36,48

Simply by using Pythagoras:

12 2 + ( 1 2 b ) 2 = a 2 { 12 }^{ 2 }+{ (\frac { 1 }{ 2 } b) }^{ 2 }={ a }^{ 2 }

Hence:

a 2 144 = ( 1 2 b ) 2 { a }^{ 2 }-144={ (\frac { 1 }{ 2 } b) }^{ 2 }

By inputting the possible values of a:

( 1 2 b ) 2 { (\frac { 1 }{ 2 } b) }^{ 2 } =432,1620,1152,2160

b= 24 3 , 36 5 , 48 2 , 24 15 24\sqrt { 3 } ,36\sqrt { 5 } ,48\sqrt { 2 } ,24\sqrt { 15 }

However, none of these pairs a,b fit the equation 2(a+b)=176

Where is the error here?

David Baker - 6 years, 8 months ago

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If I understand your idea correctly, you are assuming the dashed line of length 12 intersects side b at the midpoint. We cannot assume that is the case (and, in fact, it is not the case here).

Gary Brown - 6 years, 8 months ago

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I believe that Gary Brown is correct

Trevor Arashiro - 6 years, 8 months ago

That's a very good point- I knew that I'd missed something obvious doing it this way.

David Baker - 6 years, 8 months ago

it is not given that the altitude on the side b bisects it.

shivam rajoriya - 6 years, 8 months ago
Louis W
Sep 30, 2014

There are two ways to find the area (A), one for each height. Let a = base for 10, and b = base for 12.

A = 10a = 12b.

a = A/10

b = A/12

Perimeter: 2a + 2b = 176

Divide by 2: a + b = 88

Substitution gives: (A/10) + (A/12) = 88

Multiply by 120: 12A + 10A = 10560

Add: 22A = 10560

Divide by 22: A = 480

No need to find either base length.

Lets say you cut off the triangle with the altitude of 10 and move it to the other side. You now have a rectangle with a width of 10 and a length of 78. Area would be length X width or 780...right???

Glenn Hughes - 6 years, 7 months ago

Let a and b be the sides. The area =10 * a =12 * b. Now dividing these two we get a b = 12 10 \frac ab=\frac{12}{10} .

Therefore ( a + b ) b = 22 10 and a + b = 176 2 b = 40 \frac{(a + b)}{b} = \frac{22}{10} \text{ and } a + b = \frac{176}{2} \Rightarrow b = 40

Hence Area is 40 12 = 480. 40 * 12 = 480.\square

Al Kevin Lumanas
Sep 27, 2014

Let θ \theta be the angle opposite to 12 and 10.

The perimeter is 2a + 2b = 176, so a + b = 88.

Since s i n θ sin \theta = 10/a and s i n θ sin \theta = 12/b

12/b = 10/a

12a = 10b

a = 5b/6

Thus, a + b = 88

5b/6 + b = 88

11b/6 = 88

b/6 = 8

b = 48

10 is the altitude since it's perpendicular to a base.

Therfore A = (10)(48) = 480 sq. units

This is the way that I did.

William Li - 6 years, 8 months ago

Thanks al kevin lumanas.. I got your point. =)

Stephen Jeorge Mandin - 6 years, 8 months ago

we got same solution dude

Marcielow Callelero - 6 years, 8 months ago
Ranjit Abraham
Oct 9, 2014

This is not the most mathematical way to do it but hey, its easier :D

Let the sides be x and y

The perimeter equation reads 2*(x+y) = 176; x+y = 88 Keep that in mind

Now the two heights are given as 12 and 10 Logically, this means that X>Y Keep that in mind too

Now the area of the parallelogram equation gives x*10 which can be 240 or 360 or 480 or 420 so x can be 24, 36, 48 or 42 Substituting the above values in x+y=88 gives only one possible solution where x>y, when x is 48

So, the area has to be 10x which is 480

Anuj Sharma
Sep 27, 2014

l e t o n e s i d e w i t h 10 a s p e r p e n d i c u l a r b e x a n d o t h e r b e y , n o w w e k n o w , 2 ( x + y ) = 176 ( x + y ) = 88 N o w j o i n t h e o n e d a i g o n a l ( i n b e t w e e n t h e s ) s o , Λ o f t r i a n g l e 1 = Λ o f t r i a n g l e 2 ( m a d e b y d a i g o n a l ) 1 / 2 10 x = 1 / 2 12 y x / y = 1.2 x = 1.2 y e q . 1 N o w , g i v e n , x + y = 88 p u t e q 1 i n i t , 1.2 y + y = 88 y = 40 s o , x = 48 N o w w e k n o w , Λ o f p a r a l l e l o g r a m = s u m o f t h o s e 2 t r i a n g l e s = 1 / 2 10 48 + 1 / 2 12 40 = 240 + 240 480 S I M P L E ? ? ? ? let\quad one\quad side\quad with\quad 10\quad as\quad perpendicular\quad be\quad x\quad and\quad other\quad be\quad y,\\ now\quad we\quad know\quad ,\\ 2(x+y)\quad =\quad 176\\ (x+y)\quad =\quad 88\\ \\ Now\quad join\quad the\quad one\quad daigonal\quad (\quad in\quad between\quad the\quad \bot \quad s\quad )\\ \\ so\quad ,\quad \Lambda \quad of\quad triangle\quad 1\quad =\quad \Lambda \quad of\quad triangle\quad 2\quad (\quad made\quad by\quad daigonal)\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad 1/2\quad *\quad 10\quad *\quad x\quad =\quad 1/2\quad *\quad 12\quad *\quad y\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad x/y\quad =\quad 1.2\quad \\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad x\quad =\quad 1.2\quad y\quad -------\quad eq.\quad 1\\ \\ Now,\quad given\quad ,\quad x+y\quad =\quad 88\\ put\quad eq\quad 1\quad in\quad it\quad ,\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad 1.2y\quad +\quad y\quad =88\quad \Rightarrow \quad y\quad =\quad 40\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad so\quad ,\quad x\quad =\quad 48\\ Now\quad we\quad know\quad ,\\ \Lambda \quad of\quad parallelogram\quad =\quad sum\quad of\quad those\quad 2\quad triangles\quad \\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad =\quad 1/2\quad *\quad 10\quad *\quad 48\quad +\quad 1/2\quad *\quad 12\quad *\quad 40\\ \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad \quad =\quad 240\quad +\quad 240\quad \Rightarrow \quad 480\quad \\ SIMPLE\quad ????

i did the same way ;)

Heeral Dedhia - 6 years, 8 months ago
Cameron Canter
Oct 3, 2014

Let's start off by labeling the sides. The shorter side I will label as "x" and the longer side I will label "y." This means that with the perimeter constraint we have the following equation:

2 x + 2 y = 176 2x+2y=176

Which reduces to

x + y = 88 x+y=88

Next, you should draw the diagonal through the parallelogram. Once you do this, you should notice that you have split the parallelogram into two triangles. These triangles are congruent due to the side-side-side proof. You will also notice that the two heights given in the parallelogram are also two different heights within these triangles. This means that:

1 2 ( 10 ) ( y ) = 1 2 ( 12 ) ( x ) \frac { 1 }{ 2 } \left( 10 \right) \left( y \right) =\frac { 1 }{ 2 } \left( 12 \right) \left( x \right)

Which, when solved for y, becomes:

y = 6 5 x y=\frac { 6 }{ 5 } x

Once you substitute back into the perimeter equation you get:

x + 6 5 x = 88 x+\frac { 6 }{ 5 } x=88

This gives the solution for x:

x = 40 x=40

and y:

y = 48 y=48

From here, pick a side and height and perform the area equation:

b a s e × h e i g h t = A r e a base \times height=Area

48 × 10 = A r e a 48 \times 10=Area

A r e a = 480 Area=480

Amed Lolo
Jan 14, 2016

Call top member AB&bottom (CD),m is intersection between Line DC&line =10, at∆Bmc ,,sin(mcb)=10\bc,call intersection between( line=12 &BC ) f, at∆ dcf ,sin(dcf)=12\Dc,angle (mcb)&(dcf) is the same, so 10\bc=12\Dc ,5dc=6bc, from given 2dc+2bc=176,solve 2 expressions ,dc=AB=48,BC=AD=40,area =2∆bcm+rectangle, mc=√(1600-100)=10√5,area=2×.5×10√5×10+10×(48-10√5)=100√5+480-100√5=480###

Swagath N Shaji
Nov 12, 2015

Let x be the side having 12 altitude.since opposite sides are equal,sum of adjacent sides=176/2=88.Adjacent side of x=88-x . Area=12x=10(88-x). 12x=880-10x 22x=880 x=880/22=40 Area=12*40=480

Zakir Dakua
Oct 9, 2015

Let bottom side length is x, and so right side length is 176/2-x = 88-x. Then we get area A = 10x or A = 12(88-x). So, 10x = 12(88-x) => 22x = 1056 => x = 48. So area A = 10x = 480.

Let: x be the hypotenuse of the right triangle formed by the altitude w/ a length of 10. y be the hypotenuse of the right triangle formed by the altitude w/ a length of 12.

This 2 triangles are similar because there angles are congruent.

Then we can say that:

x/10 = y/12 (Eq. 1)

Perimeter of Parallelogram = Sum of all sides = 176

2x + 2y = 176 or x + y = 88 (Eq. 2)

x = 88 - y (from Eq. 2) substituting this to Eq. 1 gives us

(88 - y)/10 = y/12 ; 1056 - 12y = 10y; 1056 = 22y ; y = 48

Area of Parallelogram = Height * Base

where Height is 10 and Base us the just solved y which is 48

Area = 10 * 48 = 480

Hassam Haque
Jan 5, 2015

Simplify the ratio --> 10 : 12 = 5 : 6

*Add the elements * ---> 5+6 = 11

Divide by perimeter ---> 176/11= 16

width (divide it by two bcz its of both sides) = (16 * 5) / 2= 40 ,

base = (16 * 6 )/2 = 48

*Area * = base * height = 48 * 10 = 480

Vishnu Ks
Jan 2, 2015

2(a+b)=176, a+b=88, where a and b are the sides of the parallelogram, draw a diagonal which divides the parallelogram into two triangles of equal area, hence 5a=6b, but the area we require is 5a+6b=10a, solving we get a=48, hence 10a= 480

Deepshikha Tewari
Dec 29, 2014

Let the upper side be 'a' and the adjacent side be 'b' . Divide the remaining area of the //gm into 2 . Consider the base of the first triangle as x. Consider the base of the second triangle shown in figure as y.

Area of first triangle shown = 1/2 * x* 10

Area of second triangle shown in figure = 1/2 y 12

Area of third triangle (which we have formed)= 1/2 * (a-x) * 10

Area of fourth triangle (which we have formed)= 1/2 (b-y) 12

Add these up and equate it to 10a(area of //gm).

You'll get two linear equations . a+b = 88 6b -5a = 0

Solve them .

You"ll get the area as 480

Shashwat Sharma
Nov 15, 2014

A simple solution .... Let the area of the parrelelogram be A,

Then the breadth (right and left sides )=A/12 and The length ( top and bottom sides) = A/10 Now the perimeter =176, We get the eq, 2(A/12+ A/10)= 176, Solving,we get, A=480.

Eftal Gezer
Oct 12, 2014

A=12a=10b

a = 5n, b = 6n, n ϵ Z

2 * (5n+6n)=176

n=8, a=40 b=48

12 * 40=48 * 10=480

i got learn from ur way

Jueeli More - 6 years, 8 months ago
Mark Trushkowsky
Oct 7, 2014

Since the two triangles formed are similar triangles, the hypotenuse of the smaller triangle is 10/12 the length of the hypotenuse of the larger triangle. Setting the hypotenuse of the larger triangle as x, the hypotenuse of the smaller triangle would be 10/12 x. Since the perimeter is 176, we can say that x plus 10/12 x equals 88. Solve for x and you get x=48. If x is 48, than 10/12 x is 40. (48+40=88). So the area is 48 (the base I used) x 10 (the height).

Iftakhar Uddin
Oct 5, 2014

in the figure, two triangle are similar.Let a be perpendicular 10 and let b be 12. then we know that a/10=b/12 so 10b=12a now 2(a+b)=176 a=88-b we get 10b=12(88-b) b=48 now the area=b10=480

Aditya Gupta
Oct 3, 2014

let one side be x(normal to 10 unit length perpendicular) and the other side be y(normal to 12 unit length perpendicular).

it is given that the perimeter is 176, that is, 2(x+y)=176

therefore, x+y=88 and x=(88-y)

by equating areas we have,

12 y=10 (88-y)

12y=880-10y

22y=880

y=40

also, it gives x=48 ...[x=(88-y)]

therefore, the area of the parallelogram is base height= 12 y= 12*40= 480

Shivam Rajoriya
Sep 30, 2014

let the two sides of the parallelogram be l and b as the perimeter of the parallelogram is 176cm 2(l+b)=176 ------------(1) l+b=88 10l=12b 5/6l=b now put the value in eq.1, 5/6l+l=88 11/6l=88 l=48cm b=40cm,area of the parallelogram is 40x12=480cmsq.

Antonio Fanari
Sep 29, 2014

If we denote with h 1 = 10 , h 2 = 12 , L 1 , L 2 , h_1=10,\,h_2=12,\,L_1,\,L_2,\, the lenghts of the heights and the sides of the parallelogram, P P the perimeter, A A\, the area of its surface, it can be observed that:

L 1 L 2 = h 1 h 2 ; L 1 = 12 10 L 2 ; \frac {L_1}{L_2}=\frac {h_1}{h_2};\,L_1={\frac{12}{10}}{L_2};

P = 2 ( L 1 + L 2 ) = 176 = 2 ( L 2 + 12 10 L 2 ) ; L 2 = 40 , L 1 = 48 P=2(L_1+L_2)=176=2(L2+\frac{12}{10}L_2);\,L2=40,\,L_1=48

A = L 1 h 1 = L 2 h 2 = 48 × 10 = 480 A={L_1}{h_1}={L_2}{h_2}=48\times{10}=\boxed{480}

Farouk Yasser
Sep 29, 2014

2 ( x + y ) = 176 ( 1 ) 10 x = a r e a × 12 12 y = a r e a × 10 120 x = 12 a r e a + 120 y = 10 a r e a 120 ( x + y ) = 22 a r e a ( x + y ) = 22 a r e a 120 ( 2 ) s u b s t i t u t i n g ( 2 ) i n t o ( 1 ) 2 ( 22 a r e a 120 ) = 176 a r e a = 480 2\quad (x\quad +\quad y)\quad =\quad 176\quad (1)\\ 10x\quad =\quad area\quad \quad \times \quad 12\\ 12y\quad =\quad area\quad \quad \times \quad 10\\ \\ \quad \quad 120x\quad =\quad 12area\\ +\\ \quad \quad 120y\quad =\quad 10area\\ ------------------\\ 120\quad (x\quad +\quad y)\quad =\quad 22area\\ (x\quad +\quad y)\quad =\quad \frac { 22area }{ 120 } \quad \quad (2)\\ \\ substituting\quad (2)\quad into\quad (1)\\ 2(\frac { 22area }{ 120 } )\quad =\quad 176\\ area\quad =\quad 480

Mohamed Eltayeb
Sep 27, 2014

let X the top rib & Y is the closing one 2X+2Y=176 :: X+Y=88 ::: Y=88-X :: :A=area
A= 10(88-X) =12X ::X= 40 ::A= 40*12 =480

Gary Brown
Sep 27, 2014

I solved this one like Michel using a system of equations. However, it also looks like the two right triangles are similar. Is anyone able to solve it by proving the 2 right triangles are similar and then finding a and b since the two hypotenuses would be proportional?

I solved it by proving the two triangles are similar.

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Krishna Garg
Sep 27, 2014

Perimeter is 176,so two sides of parallegram sum will be 176/2 = 88 Cm,Let a and b are longer and smaller sides of parallelogram so, 2(a +b ) = 176,since height is 10 cm and a+b =88, ratio of a to b will be 12/10 and accordingly a side length is 48 therefore area is 480 Ans K.K.GARG ,India

how do you know ratio will be 12:10

Jessica Jimenez - 6 years, 8 months ago

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Since right angled triangles shown in parallelogram have been identifified for length and breath. So the lines will have same ratio. Thanks for asking details. K.K.GARG,India

Krishna Garg - 6 years, 8 months ago

Further please see calculations by Master Anuj Sharma to make this point clear. K.K.GARG,India

Krishna Garg - 6 years, 8 months ago

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