x → 0 + lim x + x + x + x + ⋯ = ?
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You wrote: ( S − 2 1 ) 2 = 4 1 ⟹ S − 2 1 = 2 1
Which is false. It should be:
( S − 2 1 ) 2 = 4 1 ⟹ S − 2 1 = 2 1 or S − 2 1 = − 2 1
Without any other consideration (which i could not figure out), we can only state that:
S = 0 or S = 1
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You can also try plugging in very small values of x like 0.01 to see the expression nears to 1.
@Ossama Ismail As a side note, we need to take the one-sided limit from the positive side. I've edited the problem accordingly.
How do you get from S 2 − S − x = 0 to ( S − 2 1 ) 2 = x + 4 1 ?
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This is completing the square:
S 2 − S − x = ( S − 2 1 ) 2 − 4 1 − x
You can check this by expansion.
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Thanks. Sorry about my temporary lapse of intelligence.
At S 2 − S − x = 0 you could also use this high school formula for quadratic expressions: S 2 + p S + q = 0
⇒ S 1 , 2 = − 2 p ± ( 2 p ) 2 − q
We have p = − 1 , q = − x
And with x → 0 we get
S 1 = 0 ,
S 2 = 1
That's what convinces me of S = 0 or S = 1 :D
No, this solution is still incorrect. Note that ( S − 2 1 ) 2 = 4 1 does not imply that S − 2 1 = 2 1 .
Instead of taking square roots, you should be factorizing the expression instead. What we get is that S − 2 1 = ± 2 1 . More work has to be done to justify that S − 2 1 = − 2 1 .
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I've edited my solution again. Don't known if it's sufficient this time.
Yes, you need to add the plus or minus sign in there.
The general computation for limit
x → 0 + lim x + x + x + x + x + x + x + x + x + . . . ⇒ x → 0 + lim 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + 0 + . . . Apply the quadratic equation: x 2 − x − C if C + C + C + C + C + C + C + C + C + . . . ⇒ x 2 − x − 0 = 0 ⇒ x 2 − x = 0 ⇒ x ( x − 1 ) = 0 Use Zero Factor Principle ⇒ ∴ x = 1 □
ADIOS!!!
Your solution is incorrect. If we were to replace the x with 0 as you did in the first step, the the expression evaluates to 0.
Also, please avoid having your notation do double duty. It's not great that x is a variable in the limit, and subsequently x is the value of the limit.
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I understand Sir.
What is the true explanation for lim x → 0 x + x + x + x + x + x + . . . Sir? Because you marked incorrect. Thanks for corrections Sir.
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See Sam's solution above.
You need to first explain why for x > 0 , the infinite radical is equal to 2 1 + x + 4 1 .
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@Calvin Lin – I'm sorry I can't explain for x > 0 , the infinite radical is equal to 2 1 + x + 4 1
As what I've know I will use completing the square So.
S 2 − S − 0 = 0
( S − 2 1 ) 2 = 4 1
S = 2 1 + 2 1
S = 2 1 + 1
S = 1 .
If I use S 1 , 2 = 2 a − b ± b 2 − 4 a c
S 1 = 0
S 2 = 1
Please check if I'm wrong Sir and explain me in step by step thanks.
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@A Former Brilliant Member – Look at Sam's solution above, to explain why S > 2 1 .
Note that you shouldn't substitute in x = 0 in your working.
Sorry I don't understand on Sam solutions above I don't have an idea about that because this is new of my sight. Sorry Sir.
Let's substitute this nested radical, into a real number p. We can obviously see that P^2-p-x=0 Thus, P=(1+sqrt(1+4x))/2 (The conjugate other p doesn't exist since root is defined only for non-negative numbers). Thus, We can take the limit of p when it goes to 0 from right, and we obviously get it to be 1. (Since the function is continous)
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Let S be the expression, then we have:
S = ( x + S ) ⇒ S 2 − S − x = 0 ⇒ ( S − 2 1 ) 2 = x + 4 1
If S − 2 1 = − ( x + 4 1 ) ⇒ S = 2 1 − ( x + 4 1 )
x > 0 ⇒ ( x + 4 1 ) > 2 1 ⇒ S < 0
Clearly the expression is positive so this is a contradiction thus
S − 2 1 = ( x + 4 1 ) for x > 0 .
As we are approaching a limit we can take this to be true as x goes to 0 as it is true for all x > 0
So as x goes to 0 we get: ( S − 2 1 ) 2 = 4 1 ⇒ S − 2 1 = 2 1 ⇒ S = 1
I think maybe this finally shows why S = 0 .
Note: Consider the recurrence relation a n + 1 = ( a n + x ) , a 0 = x so a ∞ is equal to the expression.
Clearly ( x + b ) < ( x + c ) for c > b > 0
a 1 > a 0 . Assume a k > a k − 1 ⇒ a k + 1 = ( x + a k ) > ( x + a k − 1 ) = a k by the above inequality.
It is proved by induction a n is increasing and, as for x < 1 we have x < x = a 0 < a ∞
This statement is true as x goes towards 0 which is why for S = 0 the limit is not 0.