Which Triangle is greater in Area?

Geometry Level 1

\[\Large{\text{Which Triangle is greater in Area?}}\] Which Triangle is greater in Area? \Large{\text{Which Triangle is greater in Area?}}

B \color{#3D99F6}B They are equal A \color{#EC7300}A

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9 solutions

Mahdi Raza
Jun 5, 2020

Solution: Pick's theorem

Pick's Theorem states Area = Interior Points + Boundary Points 2 1 \text{Area} = {\color{#D61F06}{\text{Interior Points}}} + \dfrac{{\color{#EC7300}{\text{Boundary Points}}}}{2} - 1

  • For Triangle A: I = 2 , B = 4 {\color{#D61F06}{\text{I = 2}}}, {\color{#EC7300}{\text{B = 4}}} Area = 2 + 4 2 1 = 3 \implies \text{Area} = {\color{#D61F06}{\text{2}}} + \dfrac{{\color{#EC7300}{\text{4}}}}{2} - 1 = \boxed{3}

  • For Triangle B: I = 1 , B = 6 {\color{#D61F06}{\text{I = 1}}}, {\color{#EC7300}{\text{B = 6}}} Area = 1 + 6 2 1 = 3 \implies \text{Area} = {\color{#D61F06}{\text{1}}} + \dfrac{{\color{#EC7300}{\text{6}}}}{2} - 1 = \boxed{3}

A = B \boxed{A = B}

Used the same theorem. Thank you for teaching me about it.

V R - 1 year ago

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Sure, welcome, and thank you for trying my problem. Hope you liked it :)

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago

Using negative space theorem gave a 9.5 vs 9 unit area

Drago . - 1 year ago

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Those numbers are far too large. Triangle A is contained in a 4x2 rectangle. See Michael's solution.

Richard Desper - 1 year ago

@Drago . , I got 8-5=6-3 using negative space

Lukas Struck - 1 year ago

Hi Mahdi Raza. Seems like you too are in 10th grade like me. How have been preparing for board exams? And how do you balance your preparation for board exams with competitive exams like NTSE, PRMO,RMO etc. Please let me know. Don’t look at my account name as I am using my father’s name.My name is Chandraprakash. I am also a fellow 10 th grader(in Tamilnadu,India)

Jaishankar V - 1 year ago

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Hi Chandraprakash. Yes, I am in 10th grade but in the IB board (different from CBSE) where we have to do a year-long project and write a full-fledged report, instead of giving boards. The final marks come late after our projects and reports are checked externally outside India. I don't have boards exam thus, but instead, school assessments of each subject on which we get the year-end report cards with a heavy weightage of our single year-long projects. These projects are independently done by students and no major help is used from teachers.

So for me, I don't have board exams. Coming to competitive exams, these are actually very difficult and I believe one has to study themselves with determination to crack those olympiads. I have a profound interest in Mathematics, thus I learn more and more of that. And along with a good chunk of practice, I developed a sufficient amount of prepartion for olympiads. Hope that helps.. feel free if you have any questions to ask!

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago

Thanks! This is very interesting. I will upvote your solution :D

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Thank you Páll

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago

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Just a question: Which is your first name? My first name is Márton :)

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@A Former Brilliant Member Ok Márton, but why does it read Páll Márton then?

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago

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@Mahdi Raza Because in our country in the correct order the first name is the second. And we don't say that this is my first name or last name. If i translate that: first n.=cross name; last n.=family name. Or maybe I entered my name incorrectly.

Same Solution - fine classic theorem.

Yuriy Kazakov - 1 year ago

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Yup, very good theorem!

Mahdi Raza - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

I used coordinate geometry. I regarded the lowest leftmost point as the origin, but I got it wrong...

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Co-ordinate may get complex really fast... Better luck next time!

Mahdi Raza - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

I used the same theorem. I liked your problem a lot.

Nethra Ramakrishnan - 10 months, 1 week ago

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Thanks, Akiko!

Mahdi Raza - 10 months, 1 week ago

That is a nice solution!

Shevy Doc - 9 months, 2 weeks ago

Area of A = Area of C D F + Area of C F E = 1 2 C F D G + 1 2 C F E L = 1 2 × 3 × 1 + 1 2 × 3 × 1 = 3 {\text{Area of }}\vartriangle A = {\text{Area of }}\vartriangle CDF + {\text{Area of }}\vartriangle CFE = \frac{1}{2}CF \cdot DG + \frac{1}{2}CF \cdot EL = \frac{1}{2} \times 3 \times 1 + \frac{1}{2} \times 3 \times 1 = 3

Area of B = 1 2 H I J K = 1 2 × 3 × 2 = 3 {\text{Area of }}\vartriangle B = \frac{1}{2}HI \cdot JK = \frac{1}{2} \times 3 \times 2 = 3

Hence, Area of A = Area of B \boxed{{\text{Area of }}\vartriangle A = {\text{Area of }}\vartriangle B} .

Nice dissection, same as Jerome's solution from today's problem

Mahdi Raza - 1 year ago
Chew-Seong Cheong
Jun 21, 2020

We can cut the top half of the orange triangle A A into two smaller triangles a a and b b . Flip a a over and place it on top of the bottom half of the orange triangle. Place b b by the side of the bottom half of the orange triangle. We get a reflection of the blue triangle B B . Therefore A = B \boxed {A = B} in area.

Nicely done! I like it!

Mahdi Raza - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Glad that you like it,

Chew-Seong Cheong - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

i liked your method

taupin au maroc - 11 months, 2 weeks ago

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Glad that you like it,

Chew-Seong Cheong - 11 months, 2 weeks ago
Michael Wever
Jun 5, 2020

The blue (B) triangle has a base length 3 (left side) and height 2 (from right vertex to base). Triangle area = b h 2 \frac{b*h}{2} = 2 3 2 \frac{2*3}{2} = 3. The gold (A) triangle area can be found by subtraction. Look at the rectangle starting at the left vertex of the triangle and 4 units tall and 2 units wide ending at the lower right vertex. that rectangle consists of 4 areas - the gold triangle and 3 right triangular spaces surrounding it. The rectangle is area = 8. The upper left space is a triangle with base = 1 height = 2, area = 1. The upper right space is a triangle with base = 1 height = 4, area = 2. The lower left space is a triangle with base = 2 height = 2, area = 2. So by subtraction, the gold (A) triangle's area = 8 - 1 -2 - 2 = 3. The triangles have the same area, 3. The gold (A) triangle area can also be found using Pick's Theorem. Arrea = 2 + 4 2 \frac{4}{2} - 1 = 3.

1 2 x 1 x 2 x 3 y 1 y 2 y 3 1 1 1 = A r e a \cfrac{1}{2}\left \| \begin{matrix}x_1&x_2&x_3\\y_1&y_2&y_3\\1&1&1\end{matrix}\right \|=Area 1 2 0 1 2 2 4 0 1 1 1 = 1 2 0 0 2 0 3 2 1 1 1 2 4 0 0 1 2 1 1 1 = 1 1 1 0 3 2 0 0 2 2 4 0 0 1 2 0 1 1 = 1 × 3 × 2 2 4 0 0 1 2 0 0 3 = 6 2 × 1 × 3 = 6 \begin{array}{lrl}\therefore&\cfrac{1}{2}\left \| \begin{matrix}0&1&2\\2&4&0\\1&1&1\end{matrix}\right \|&=\cfrac{1}{2}\left \| \begin{matrix}0&0&2\\0&3&2\\1&1&1\end{matrix}\right \|\\[20px] \because&\left \| \begin{matrix}2&4&0\\0&1&2\\1&1&1\end{matrix}\right \|&=\left \| \begin{matrix}1&1&1\\0&3&2\\0&0&2\end{matrix}\right \|\\[20px] \because&\left \| \begin{matrix}2&4&0\\0&1&2\\0&1&-1\end{matrix}\right \|&=1\times3\times2\\[20px] \because&\left \| \begin{matrix}2&4&0\\0&1&2\\0&0&-3\end{matrix}\right \|&=6\\[20px] \because& 2\times1\times3&=6\end{array}

Or a simple version:

A r e a = 1 2 ( x 2 y 3 x 3 y 2 ) Area=\cfrac{1}{2}(x_2y_3-x_3y_2)

If the third( x 1 ; y 1 x_1;y_1 )point's coordinates are ( 0 ; 0 ) (0;0) .

Pick's Theorem states that -- Area = Interior Points(I) + Boundary Points(B)/2 - 1

Using Pick's Theorem we get area as

For Triangle A -- I = 2, B = 4 Area = 2 + 4/2 - 1 = 2+2-1 = 3

For Triangle B -- I = 1, B = 6 Area = 1 + 6/2 - 1 = 1+3-1 = 3

Area of Triangle A = Area of Triangle B

Please consider upvoting, I went through the trouble of learning Pick's theorem from 4 different sites and then some books. Peace!!

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Keep learning. Upvoted!

Mahdi Raza - 11 months, 3 weeks ago

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Thanks, I will keep learning.

A Former Brilliant Member - 11 months, 3 weeks ago
Lâm Lê
Sep 11, 2020

Dimensions of A \color{#EC7300}A : Base = 2 2 =2\sqrt{2} , Height = 1.5 2 =1.5\sqrt{2}\Rightarrow Area = 3 =3

Dimensions of B \color{#3D99F6}B : Base = 2 =2 , Height = 3 =3\Rightarrow Area = 3 =3

Therefore A A = A B \boxed{A_{\color{#EC7300}A}\color{#333333}=A_\color{#3D99F6}B}

Jan Papaj
Jul 11, 2020

Dunno aby theorems, dunno how to put the pure logic and simple maths into these fancy formulas. Got to the correct answer by just ADDING UP/SUBSTRACTING THE HALVES AND QUARTERS of grid point squares and rectangles. I wish I could do it the ‘academic way’ though

Mandeep Singh
Jun 24, 2020

The both have same base that is 3 and altitude of first triangle is 2 and altitude of the orange triangle is sum of two altitudes both equal to 1 Hence both blue and orange triangles have same area.

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