Over all positive reals, find the minimum value (to 2 decimal places) of
F = a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 + ln ( a b c ) .
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Given that ⌈ k ⌉ is easily wrongly guessed with ( 1 , 1 , 1 ) , I've updated the problem statement to finding the value directly.
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yeah ,i wanted to change it because people were using AM-GM inequalities and easily solving it since the answers agree ,but their solution was wrong just like you mentioned
and that's why i like brilliant ,it's full of interesting problems and i'm happy that i'm contributing to the community here,thanks for trying it (:
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I'm looking forward to more problems like this!
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@Calvin Lin – https://brilliant.org/problems/whos-up-to-the-challenge4/?group=pWBqMfRTyfQM
finally done with science fair and back to problem writing !
If f(x)=x+(1/x)+ln(x), then F=f(a)+f(b)+f(c). So, minimising each term would be correct, right?
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no,you can't just focus on minimizing one part of the expression,you would want to find the minimum of the whole expression
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@Hamza A – Actually, in this particular case, yes we can. As pointed out by Deeparaj, we want to minimize F = f ( a ) + f ( b ) + f ( c ) , subject to a , b , c > 0 . Changing the value of a to affect f ( a ) will not affect the corresponding values of f ( b ) or f ( c ) .
However, in most cases where we want to minimize F subject to some other condition (say a b c = 1 ), then we may not be able to minimize each term individually, since changing a will result in us having to change the values of b and/or c .
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@Hamza A Hey, why are two of your problems given the same number in the set?? Check this one ......:)
Note, the reasoning for a = b = c is wrong. Instead, it should be "There is a unique positive root to 1 − x 2 1 + x 1 , hence a , b , c must all be equal to this value at equilibrium."
At minima of the F, a+1/a+ln(a), b+1/b+ln(b) and c+1/c+ln(c) individually are at their minima since a b and c are independent of each other. Individually finding the minima of any of the above and then multiplying by 3 gives the answer
A . M . ≥ G . M . 6 a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 ≥ 6 a . b . c a . b . c = > a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 ≥ 6 w e k n o w t h a t ln x > 0 = > a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 + ln x > 6 m i n a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 + ln x = 6
When we want to find the max/min of f ( x ) + g ( x ) , we cannot simply look for the max/min of f ( x ) first.
In particular, this solution is incorrect.
actually, l n x can be less than zero
consider numbers lower than 1
the important thing is that x > 0
When we want to find the max/min of f ( x ) + g ( x ) , we cannot simply look for the max/min of f ( x ) first.
In particular, this solution is incorrect.
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F = a + b + c + a 1 + b 1 + c 1 + ln ( a b c ) Hence, ∇ F = ⎝ ⎛ 1 − a 2 1 + a 1 1 − b 2 1 + b 1 1 − c 2 1 + c 1 ⎠ ⎞ Since the equation is symmetric and we're looking for a , b , c such that ∇ F = 0 we can solve for when 1 − x 2 1 + x 1 = 0
There is a unique positive root to 1 − x 2 1 + x 1 , hence a , b , c must all be equal to this value at equilibrium.
1 − a 2 1 + a 1 = 0 a = − ϕ o r ϕ − 1 Since only one value of a is positive, namely ϕ − 1 , we can proceed to take the hessian. H ( a , b , c ) = ⎣ ⎡ 1 + a 3 2 − a 2 1 0 0 0 1 + b 3 2 − a 2 1 0 0 0 1 + c 3 2 − c 2 1 ⎦ ⎤ H ( ϕ − 1 , ϕ − 1 , ϕ − 1 ) ≈ ⎝ ⎛ 6 . 8 5 4 0 0 0 6 . 8 5 4 0 0 0 6 . 8 5 4 ⎠ ⎞
The determinant of the first,second,and third principal minors of the matrix above are positive which implies that this is a local minimum. After plugging in we obtain min F ( a , b , c ) ≈ 5 . 2