If x + y = 1 and x 2 + y 2 = 2 , what is the value of x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 ?
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First, note that ( x + y ) 2 = x 2 + 2 x y + y 2 = 1 ⟹ x y = − 2 1
Now let us define x , y as the roots of a quadratic. This quadratic, by Vieta's, is x 2 − x − 2 1 .
Now, notice that x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = ( x 3 + y 3 ) ( x 4 + y 4 ) . We want to find the values of x 3 + y 3 and x 4 + y 4 .
Now define P n = x n + y n .
By Newton's Sums, P 3 − P 2 − 2 1 P 1 = 0 ; we substitute P 1 = 1 and P 2 = 2 (from the conditions x + y = 1 and x 2 + y 2 = 2 ) to get P 3 = 2 5 .
By Newton's Sums, P 4 − P 3 − 2 1 P 2 = 0 ; we substitute P 2 = 2 and P 3 = 2 5 to get P 4 = 2 7 .
We want to find P 3 P 4 , which is simply 2 5 ⋅ 2 7 = 4 3 5 and we are done. □ .
Sidenote: using Newton's Sums was a little bit overkill on this problem, but if they asked you to compute x 1 2 + y 1 2 + x 5 y 7 + x 7 y 5 , then this strategy would be much easier.
We know that x + y = 1 and x 2 + y 2 = 2
x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = = x 4 ( x 3 + y 3 ) + y 4 ( x 3 + y 3 ) = = ( x 4 + y 4 ) ( x 3 + y 3 )
Note that x + y = 1 ( x + y ) 2 = 1 x 2 + y 2 + 2 x y = 1 2 x y + 2 = 1 x y = − 2 1
Now we calculate each of the factors:
( x 2 + y 2 ) ( x + y ) = 2 ⋅ 1 x 3 + y 3 + x 2 y + x y 2 = 2 x 3 + y 3 + x y ( x + y ) = 2 x 3 + y 3 + ( − 2 1 ⋅ 1 ) = 2 x 3 + y 3 − 2 1 = 2 x 3 + y 3 = 2 5
( x 3 + y 3 ) ( x + y ) = 2 5 ⋅ 1 x 4 + y 4 + x 3 y + x y 3 = 2 5 x 4 + y 4 + x y ( x 2 + y 2 ) = 2 5 x 4 + y 4 + ( − 2 1 ⋅ 2 ) = 2 5 x 4 + y 4 − 1 = 2 5 x 4 + y 4 = 2 5 + 1 x 4 + y 4 = 2 7
So
x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = ( x 4 + y 4 ) ( x 3 + y 3 ) = 2 7 ⋅ 2 5 = 4 3 5
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x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = ( x 3 + y 3 ) ( x 4 + y 4 ) x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = ( x + y ) ( x 2 + y 2 − x y ) ( ( x 2 + y 2 ) 2 − 2 x 2 y 2 )
From the given values,
x + y = 1 x 2 + y 2 = 2 ⇒ x y = 2 − 1
Using all these values,
x 7 + y 7 + x 4 y 3 + x 3 y 4 = 2 5 ⋅ 2 7 = 4 3 5