You don't need implicit differentiation, part I

Calculus Level 2

If y = x x x . . . y = \displaystyle \sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{}...}}}}}} , find d y d x x = 8 \left. \dfrac{dy}{dx} \right|_{x= 8}

1 12 -\dfrac{1}{12} The derivative does not exist 4 3 \dfrac{4}{3} 1 12 \dfrac{1}{12} 4 3 -\dfrac{4}{3}

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2 solutions

Rishabh Jain
Mar 19, 2016

y = x 1 2 1 4 + 1 8 + Infinite GP \Large y=x^{\overbrace{\small{\frac{1}{2}-\frac{1}{4}+\frac{1}{8}+\cdots}}^{\color{#D61F06}{\text{Infinite GP}}}}

= x 1 2 1 + 1 2 = x 1 3 \Large =x^{\small{\frac{\frac 12}{1+\frac 12}}}=x^{\frac 13}

d y d x x = 8 = 1 3 ( 1 x 2 3 ) x = 8 = 1 12 \left. \dfrac{dy}{dx} \right|_{x= 8} =\left. \dfrac{1}{3}\left(\dfrac{1}{x^{\frac 23}} \right)\right|_{x= 8} =\boxed{\color{#EC7300}{\dfrac{1}{12}}}

Cool one! I still used implicit differentiation :P

Sravanth C. - 5 years, 2 months ago

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You're welcome to post what you did if you want! I could see where you did it but i didn't find it necessary.

Hobart Pao - 5 years, 2 months ago

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Well, I used the most common method.

If y = x x x x . . . \large y=\sqrt { \frac { x }{ \sqrt { \frac { x }{ \sqrt { \frac { x }{ \sqrt { \frac { x }{ \sqrt { ... } } } } } } } } } y = x y y 2 = x y y 3 = x y = x 3 \Rightarrow y=\sqrt { \frac { x }{ y } } \Rightarrow { y }^{ 2 }=\frac { x }{ y } \Rightarrow { y }^{ 3 }=x\Rightarrow y=\sqrt [ 3 ]{ x } .

Now, d y d x = d d x x 3 = 1 3 x 2 3 \large \frac { dy }{ dx } =\frac { d }{ dx } \sqrt [ 3 ]{ x } =\frac { 1 }{ 3\sqrt [ 3 ]{ { x }^{ 2 } } } . Plugging 8 8 , we get 1 12 \frac{1}{12} .

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Swapnil Das I did the same Swapnil. Cheers!

Sravanth C. - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Sravanth C. Cheers! :)

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Swapnil Das i dont find a single difference in my method. fully same . :))

Satyabrata Dash - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Satyabrata Dash Oh, that's great :P

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 2 months ago

@Swapnil Das Thats the standard method!

Nihar Mahajan - 5 years, 2 months ago

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@Nihar Mahajan Yep! The 'simple standard solution'.

Swapnil Das - 5 years, 2 months ago

Nice question.. It inspired me for this where I took this concept to the next level... Thanks for the inspiration anyways ... :-)

Rishabh Jain - 5 years, 2 months ago
Fahim Saikat
Apr 1, 2016

let, y = x x x . . . y = \displaystyle \sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{\dfrac{x}{\sqrt{}...}}}}}} => d f r a c x y = y dfrac{x}{y} =y => x = y 3 x=y^3 => y = x 1 3 y=x^\dfrac{1}{3}

then, d y d x = 1 3 x 2 3 \dfrac{dy}{dx} =\dfrac{1}{3} x^\dfrac{-2}{3}

if x=8 then, d y d x = 1 3 x 2 3 = 1 12 \dfrac{dy}{dx} =\dfrac{1}{3} x^\dfrac{-2}{3} = \dfrac{1}{12}

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