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{ log 2 x + log 4 y + log 4 z = 2 log 3 y + log 9 z + log 9 x = 2 log 4 z + log 16 x + log 16 y = 2 \begin{cases} \log _{ 2}{ x}+\log _{ 4}{ y }+\log _{ 4}{ z }=2 \\ \log _{ 3}{ y }+\log _{ 9}{z }+\log _{ 9}{ x }=2 \\ \log _{ 4}{ z }+\log _{ 16}{ x }+\log _{ 16}{ y }=2 \end{cases}

3 x + 8 y + 3 z = ? 3x+8y+3z=?


The answer is 61.

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2 solutions

John M.
Oct 20, 2014

Using the formula

log a N = log b N log b a , \log_{a}{N}=\frac{\log_{b}{N}}{\log{_{b}{a}}},

we can rewrite our system of equation in a following way:

{ log 2 x + 1 2 log 2 y + 1 2 log 2 z = 2 log 3 y + 1 2 log 3 z + 1 2 log 3 x = 2 log 4 z + 1 2 log 4 x + 1 2 log 4 y = 2 \begin{cases} \log_{2}{x}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{2}{y}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{2}{z}=2 \\ \log_{3}{y}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{3}{z}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{3}{x}=2 \\ \log_{4}{z}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{4}{x}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{4}{y}=2 \end{cases}

Simplifying 1 ^1 , we obtain

{ x y z = 4 y z x = 9 z x y = 16 \begin{cases} x\sqrt{yz}=4 \\ y\sqrt{zx}=9 \\z\sqrt{xy}=16 \end{cases} ( a ) (a)

Multiplying all of the equations out, we get

( x y z ) 2 = 4 9 16 (xyz)^2=4\cdot 9\cdot 16

from which

x y z = 24. xyz=24. ( b ) (b)

(from the given problem we take the principal root of the equation in order to make sense for the original x , y , x,y, and z z arguments of the logs).

Squaring each equation in system ( a ) (a) and dividing them by ( b ) (b) , we obtain

x = 2 3 , y = 27 8 , z = 32 3 . \boxed{x=\frac{2}{3},y=\frac{27}{8},z=\frac{32}{3}}.


1 - simplification took place in a following way:

{ log 2 x + 1 2 log 2 y + 1 2 log 2 z = 2 log 3 y + 1 2 log 3 z + 1 2 log 3 x = 2 log 4 z + 1 2 log 4 x + 1 2 log 4 y = 2 { log 2 x y z = 2 log 3 y z x = 2 log 4 z x y = 2 { 2 log 2 x y z = 2 2 3 log 3 y z x = 3 2 4 log 4 z x y = 4 2 \begin{cases} \log_{2}{x}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{2}{y}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{2}{z}=2 \\ \log_{3}{y}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{3}{z}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{3}{x}=2 \\ \log_{4}{z}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{4}{x}+\frac{1}{2}\log_{4}{y}=2 \end{cases} \Rightarrow \begin{cases} \log _{ 2 }{ x\sqrt { yz } } =2 \\ \log _{ 3 }{ y\sqrt { zx } } =2 \\ \log _{ 4 }{ z\sqrt { xy } } =2 \end{cases}\Rightarrow \begin{cases} 2^{\log_{2}{x\sqrt{yz}}}=2^2 \\ 3^{\log_{3}{y\sqrt{zx}}}=3^2 \\ 4^{\log_{4}{z\sqrt{xy}}}=4^2 \end{cases}


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I upvoted this solution just because of that pic you posted at the end. :D I was having the exact same feels when I solved this problem, the only difference being that I was using a rocket launcher. :P By the way, this problem is overrated. It should've been a level 3 problem.

Prasun Biswas - 6 years, 6 months ago

A funny fact is that the photo of the prob contained 132 which is double of 61 . Haha ....

Samiur Rahman Mir - 6 years, 7 months ago

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That would be cool, lol

but eh 61 2 = 122 61\cdot 2=122

John M. - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Oh my .... this days multiplying variables has brought me failure to multiplying constants .

Samiur Rahman Mir - 6 years, 7 months ago

and @John Muradeli 61.2=122 ... you wrote the answer again in the pic !!my whole life is a lie! O_O

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

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@Soumo Mukherjee Um... lol... WHAT??

I never even intended for "Fact 132" to be close to the answer in some way. Where are you guys pulling these things out from? :O

John M. - 6 years, 7 months ago

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@John M. Ok ..Ok.. :D But 2 times your pic contained the answer :D ...

c'mon man just having a bit fun...

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

Photo! OMG you were counting them! @_@

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

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I dont know what you meant , I solved and while submitting a wrong simple multiplication crossed my mind !

Samiur Rahman Mir - 6 years, 7 months ago

pretty good observation bro

prajwal kavad - 6 years, 5 months ago

I got lost. I got terms like x 2 y z { x }^{ 2 }yz instead of x y z x\sqrt { yz } . After that God knows what I did and couldn't solve 3 equation of 3 variable (Shame!).

Smart solution by the way.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

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You were going right. If you'd square root both sides you'd get x y z x \sqrt{yz} . But this wasn't needed since you could directly solved it.

Sanjeet Raria - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Yes, instead I would be getting ( x y z ) 4 { ({ xyz) } }^{ 4 } ...But i started dividing and all... and went far...very far from the solution.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

Hey Math Philic!

Hm that's interesting. I wonder how you got that. Well, you could've rooted all of them and gotten where I got, I guess. In the end I do square all of them, but the fact that I had them all in rooted form first helped me obtain the expression for ( x y z ) 2 (xyz)^2 .

Stay cool, Math Philic b(o.o)d

John M. - 6 years, 7 months ago

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Yeah! John is back ^_^. Behold and travel through my stupidity.You are going to be very annoyed by knowing what kinda stupidity I was doing in solution.

First thought:Since the expression which need to be evaluated is a linear f ( x , y , z ) f\left( x,y,z \right) [without any log], So, get rid of log.

I proceeded as :

2 log 2 x + log 2 y + log 2 z = 4 log 3 x + 2 log 3 y + log 3 z = 4 log 4 x + log 4 y + 2 log 4 z = 4 log 2 y z x 2 = 4 log 3 x z y 2 = 4 log 4 y x z 2 = 4 y z x 2 = 2 4 . . . . ( a ) x z y 2 = 3 4 . . . . ( b ) y x z 2 = 4 4 . . . . ( c ) 2\log _{ 2 }{ x } +\log _{ 2 }{ y } +\log _{ 2 }{ z } =4\\ \log _{ 3 }{ x } +2\log _{ 3 }{ y } +\log _{ 3 }{ z } =4\\ \log _{ 4 }{ x } +\log _{ 4 }{ y } +2\log _{ 4 }{ z } =4\\ \log _{ 2 }{ { yzx }^{ 2 } } =4\\ \log _{ 3 }{ { xzy }^{ 2 } } =4\\ \log _{ 4 }{ { yxz }^{ 2 } } =4\\ { yzx }^{ 2 }={ 2 }^{ 4 }\quad ....(a)\\ { xzy }^{ 2 }={ 3 }^{ 4 }\quad ....(b)\\ { yxz }^{ 2 }={ 4 }^{ 4 }\quad ....(c)

Then finally got 3 equation in 3 variable.

Second thought:Solve them. Solved ? No, not now.

Then, [only God knows], what chemical reaction went inside my head that I started dividing (a) with (b) then (b) with (c) .... .Then I got equations in terms of x/y, y/z, x/z .Couldn't hold my excitement went for them and kept wandering till I clicked 'Reveal Solution'.And couldn't shoot the zombies :'(.

Yours is a simpler one.Your all solutions are simple no doubt about that.

Soumo Mukherjee - 6 years, 7 months ago

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@Soumo Mukherjee well.. Math Philic.. multyply eq. a,b and c then you simply get xyz=2.3.4=24 and then dividing you will get required solution.

Bhupendra Jangir - 6 years, 4 months ago

I've also done the problem in the same way.

Trishit Chandra - 6 years, 5 months ago
Ram Kumar
Nov 23, 2014

log 2⁡x+log 4⁡y+log 4⁡z = 2 log 2⁡x+log 4⁡y+log 4⁡z = (log x/ log 2) + (log y/ log4) + (log z/log4) = (log x/ log 2) + (log y/ 2log2) + (log z/2log2) = (1/2log2)(logx^2 + log y + log z) .

    (1/2log2)(logx^2 + log y + log z)  = 2.
    logx^2yz = log 16.
    x^2yz= 16  - (1)...

Similarly xy^2z=81 - (2)... xyz^2=256 - (3)... multiplying (1), (2), (3) 〖(xyz)〗^4= 〖(2 4 3)〗^4. xyz = 24. eqn(1) becomes x(xyz) = 16. eqn (2) Becomes y(xyz) = 81. eqn(3) Becomes z(xyz) = 256. Substitute xyz in above equations x = 16/24 = 2/3. y = 81/24 = 27/8. z = 256/24 = 32/3. therefore, 3x+8y+3z = 3(2/3)+8(27/8)+3(32/3) = 3 + 27 + 32 = 61.

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